Agree with the poster who said join for 5 years and zao but 2 things to note
EM is not that bad lah… pays salary on time, got okay benefits. It used to be a place that people “marry”… join and stay for life. Now with the change in performance appraisal system and a lot of cuts, it become like a player that can kick you out anytime, no longer marriageable material. So people get upset because they had that expectation of stability and sacrificed other things like higher pay elsewhere. people who want stability now look for another “husband” to marry, so attrition is high.
If you don’t mind to join this player company, pick up the experience and prestige, grab as much experience as you can, then after 5 years zao elsewhere… this company is not bad for that. Just don’t put in too much feeling ok, and be strategic about the experience you gain, and constantly upgrade and look for opportunities. If you become yellow face woman like us, marry already never strategic never hustle never upkeep your attractiveness, one day become bitter like us
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If you do join Chem PE, you only need to look 3 levels up.
If you could be a “30-below-40” like him, you CAN certainly make it in EM!
I just got a offer for Process Tech fro EM Chemical plant December batch. What's so bad about EM that everyone is quitting?
At the end of the day, your bosses are just working for a job la. They are at the mercy of their own bosses as well. Whatever employee forum they have, they will only give you politically correct answer. Do you want to hear the truth from them? If they say the truth, people will say they are not tactful. They are just doing their job to save their own rice bowl. At the end of the day, your own life you decide your own destiny lor.
Without Malaysians working here, SG will be much much worse off… we all owe them, and other foreigners working here. I’m speaking this as a Singaporean who has no family in Msia. I love my EMIT KL colleagues, even if we call them jiuhukia it’s no malice. Everyone is working hard to eke a living and many are indeed more capable than us. Take the anger somewhere else
Actually, it’s still your usual jiuhukia- they are here to take your jobs!!!!!
Wah don’t doxx. 15k SGD for expat allowance including rental is it? Last time the budget was 7k for rental. Ok lah… hipo is liddat one. Developmental role for hipo, our hipo go other people country expat also liddat one… this is not your usual jiuhukia
Yep, white old men in Dallas thinking they are still top of the world while
The stock price is getting kicked in the a-s! Big time!
EM has and will always be an organization controlled by white men in Dallas. You think whether it is GC or GSK, the redundancies might have stopped?
Dream on lah. You all think this is some K drama where GSK is the nice old man and GC is the evil lady siboh?
Don't so kumgong and direct your anger at the right place (Texas).
Focus on yourself and not on GC.
GC is going to get paid very well in the form of RSUs and for executing the redundancy well.
Not sure what kind of retribution you were thinking of, but the only one i see is that she’s going to get more $$$ than she knows how to spend.
For those jiao gia who joined EM fresh from institutions or uni. Will Always think outside world is a better place. Those join from esp SMEs will appreciate more. If you cant survive in EM, then likely you will be even worse outside. You will have to work even harder for your dough. 包山包海。no subject matter expert title given (americians likes this kinda of egolistic name) although you are mediocre.This is the fear most ppls who are staying on.
Oh yes I have to say, the NOC boss reminds me of my SME boss before I joined EM. When I joined I was v impressed that EM people are not like that. People are respectful, decent and professional. Despite all our complaints it is not a bad place to work
Ok la just wait for increment, next year then zao for double increment. At least our company not as toxic as the on going NOC saga, yet.
Heard of outstanding rated folks going for interviews and making choices between staying or going for a 20% increment. Chose to stay because expect increments to be at 20% and above. However, if it’s going to be another China sh-t show, we can expect to see more departures. After all, no tears were shed for those who left, only a new job announcement. So test your value hard and don’t just appear for all the pointless zoom calls folks.
Got a lot of people resigned already…. The rest of the young people must be good performers but looking for good jobs. I’m typical of this type… ranked Outstanding and Excellent past 2 years, told my boss don’t give me promotion lah cos no point (my meaning very shallow he sure get it one). He must be wondering why today I’m still in EM. But looking for good jobs lah… go interviews, assess, if not good company and role I don’t take. Anyway I excellent what… can drag min 1 more year before kena PIP. Slowly look my friends, don’t anxious, we are young and world is very big.
Keep reading in this post people resigned, planned to resign. But actual fact still seeing same people around at site, office. All keep talking, fire blank bullet.
Be glad you even have a platform to celebrate. Could have told you to work hard during company working hours. Stop complaining man.
Limit to $20/pax, you can buy whatever you want (except alcoholic beverages).
All invitees will dial into Zoom at the appointed time (all cameras and microphones must be turned on) and then have fun and merry making with the anniversary celebrant - eating your own food and making toasts to each other!
So much fun right?
celebrate virtually lo as per guideline, order foodpanda and grab food. Maybe fellow colleague is the delivery man
How are you guys having your anniversary meals now?
Lol GC is right lah… there’s no way our CL 27-29 can find job outside that pays even 50% of what EM pays them, for the kind of work that they do. These people also know they have it too good, so diam diam act blur live longer, at most come layoff board stir sh-t. This SG thread is the legend of EM layoff board btw… so proud of little red dot
On the other hand, the CL 22-25 can walk out and very easily find something.
CL 26 depends on what they do but many individual contributors at CL 26 in their mid 40s are in the same boat as CL 27-29, though maybe they can still find job at 60% pay
Looking forward to be right by December when they announce increment numbers.
Heard from a senior. 20% is possible for sure especially during good years. Also true even at high CL levels (>26) so you can imagine how the salary rise is exponential for those who do well. So that defines the upper limit. But it also means have to chiong.. So to each his own la
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If you are to get a promotion, you’ll only get it in Jan 2022, with your next increment.
Not this year.
A 20% increment (with promotion) for a base salary of (say) $6K = $1,200. No big deal, I had given even more of such previously, but only to my deserving staff - usually the Hi-pos.
So to all you up and coming, you’d need to prove yourself first, before setting your remuneration expectations high. Otherwise, you will only circulate with the mediocre.
@6Lnlv+16zEvLP3
Yup, I respect the successful seniors above me who have made it in EM during their “yesterday years”, as you have put it - now in their 50-somethings and cruising to a comfortable retirement over the next 10+ years.
With own-stay landed property, investment private apartment(s) collecting passive income, a pile of cash savings / FDs, EM stock options, other maturing investment instruments, a paid-for country club membership, interest-free car loan (the last couple have now been taken away).
It’s possible to get 20% for OPD if you get promotion and if your base is low. Otherwise, apply to big tech. Heard they are hiring aggressively and willing to pay. Google even has free food while EM takes away your vending machine and your nepresso. Think about it.
With a CL promotion, Merit Increase (tia kong, this will be removed for 2022) and Special Adjustment (this may also go one), even a >20% increment is possible.
In yesterday years …..
But gone are the good old days hor.
Blessed are those who had enjoyed the vintage EM remuneration system and made their hay while the sun shined - they will have a good runway to retirement!
If I’m ranked OPD and get a promotion this year possible to get 20%?
Dude, 20% increment is possible…
In your dreams…. OR
If you are Darren Woods…
Otherwise, just go to Shopee for that increment.
I’m hoping for 20% increment. Possible?
Ello, there was no 2021 increment in January lah dud - pay freeze remember?
The next increment will be for 2022, in January.
Heard 2021 increment will be better than expected.
Hang in there folks! It will pay off!
All, AWS will be prorated, so you don’t have to wait until year end to leave. You can still get your prorated AWS if you leave now. Hope that helps the folks!
Yup, a few had already accepted jobs, to begin in Jan 2022 - AFTER they receive their 3 month AWS!
@6Kwyh+16zEvLP3 Yes, I expected another wave of resignations after Jan 22. I hope managers and SLSs are prepared for it. But most likely, they are not.
Pretty sure those <3 years employees who are still around are waiting for the increment communication. If minimal increment, one more wave of resignation.
January 2022, of course.
That is, if you get one (cos not everyone will receive an increment).
when will our increment be communicated?
Not what I see pal, and I’m in a position to approve promotions. Promotions are given out like free candy unless you are going into CL28, then your VP better know you by your first name and know your wife/children/maid’s name.
All levels below 28, if you are not getting promotions, it means you really need to rethink your future here, because your peers and your supervisors and your peers peers are getting promoted except you. What’s that message for you?