I wish they give me 20 months pay to sack me... 15 months also can lah since I work 15 years nia
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@7iggx+16zEvLP3 20 months pay? Lol. Label you NSI will be sufficient. One down, you will never be the same again. Your career has ended. Cheap and dirty way to get rid of you, even if you pass PIP.
What ever I can EMagine are the stuff of nightmares!
Like getting PIP when I’m after 45.
Being moved to dead end jobs.
Asked to coach a lot then after transfer all knowledge, company will give me a letter to tell me this is 20 months pay. Thank you for your past services.
So better don’t EMagine and just shout We Are ExxonMobil the loudest.
Would appreciate some answers here @OP+1dK01mPt .
The truth that no one is admitting is that leveraging on TC is way more cheaper than hiring someone from SG. See the past few months when so many PEs left, their jobs were easily taken care by KLTC. As a boardman, I only recognize them by their voices. We kept hearing the management talking about people, just too bad la, the people they are talking about are not the SG folks, more of the TC folks. No more memories for the next birthday.
You can go yammer and search “emagine”. Don’t get your hopes too high, it’s grassroots activities to help “invigorate” the community. I think it’s led by good energetic folks with positive intention
But if you think about it, we’re all at the mercy of our different global functions, and ultimately Dallas. What can a Singapore controls manager clarify for you if you work in procurement? The manufacturing head can’t help you one bit if F&L or EMIT move your job to India or Bangkok. Especially if you are in a globalised function… look at EMIT, global wanted to axe the population, then kena axe, lucky got $, all so happy.
Even for functions that seem to have local jobs like controllers, they are constantly under the threat of Bangkok taking bigger and bigger share of the pie. So many people from controllers faster zao, whatever their managers say also useless, reality is stark
Whatever the retention task force can clarify or assure is only got parquet the day they say… the next day no more parquet already. End of the day everything according to global say, and the Americans don’t even take care of the job security of their own people… it’s a fact of life working for MNC like ours
Heard there’s some retention committee chartered to provide clarity on the future of Singapore. Anyone heard anything yet. Will love to see what new tales can be spinned on a pretty dire situation for Singaporeans.
No. H2 from electrolysis of water will be too costly and slow.
Currently, most of the world’s industrial H2 is made in bulk, from natural gas feeding a steam methane reformer. Cheaper and faster than electrolysis can ever be!
It’s only issue is the CO2 by-product.
However, with CCS (Carbon Capture Sequestration) technology, the CO2 can be contained (subterraneanly-buried, in inert form) - to give blue-H2 (vs green-H2), all compliant with LCS.
That will be the desired end game, whereby H2 fuelcell-powered cars can be refilled “full-tank” within just a couple of minutes (no different from today’s gasoline-engined cars).
H2 cells are just wierd. Why would u convert H2 from water using electricity, then convert H2 back to electricity to power the car??? Energy is lost in between and not efficient compared to direct electric car...
Actually, Audi and Volvo are already on board H2 fuel cell.
And in Japan, Honda and Nissan have been holding hands with Toyota on H2 technology, as the best thing since sliced bread.
China is expanding its hydrogen fuelling infrastructure, with several carmakers now working on fuel-cell cars, including Great Wall Motor, which plans to develop hydrogen-powered SUVs.
You can read all about it here:
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/business/german-auto-giants-place-their-bets-hydrogen-cars-2194056
The Korean (Hyundai/KIA) conglomerate have also set their sights to a hydrogen fuel cell future.
Hyundai Xcient hydrogen fuel cell trucks, with over 1-million km of European mileage, will soon hit California roads
https://paultan.org/2021/07/27/hyundai-xcient-hydrogen-fuel-cell-trucks-with-over-1m-km-european-mileage-will-soon-hit-california-roads/?fbclid=IwAR3nLaALXhNCjpTxlkQfMLVO7C-9NQ5Bf44kQ4dyLz45TFazk8x3EijZdEA
So we now have the Japanese, Germans, Koreans. Who’s next to jump on the hydrogen bandwagon?
The French, Italians, Swedish (now owned by Cheri-China) and British (one owned by Tata-India, and another by BMW-Germany)?
Et tu Tesla? … sorry, that’s in Latin
Do you know how much Tesla shares he owns? Didn't know 8 million out of 170 million of stock is significant..
Next time pls don't cash out any of your investment profits. Look at the paper profits all the way lor
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You sure you wanna do that, when Elon Musk had just disposed of a not-insignificant chunk of his Tesla stocks?
As Warren Buffet had quipped before: when the market rushes in to buy, he will sell. And conversely, when the masses start to dump and sell, he will buy.
That’s why he is an outstanding multi-billionaire today!
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I am with you on the world’s long-term view on EVs. I don’t think battery technology (and it’s safe disposal) will ever be environmentally-sustainable … heck, it is worse than plastic!
If we look at what’s happening in the US (which has the highest density of EV superchargers in the world, especially in California, first - and mostly owned by Tesla), many an EV model from the various car manufacturers have been knocking on Musk’s door, to enter into a JV agreement to utilise and ride on Tesla’s far-reaching supercharging network.
Think: Ratable Opex/year vs up-front Capex, with depreciation!
I think that’s a damn good value proposition on a technology with quite an uncertain, long-term future.
You see, this allows Tesla’s competitors to jump ship to hydrogen fuel cells and bail out completely from the EV market, once HV becomes the world’s next de facto standard.
Tesla will be the only player, miserably left holding on to their huge (hot potato), wasted asset of supercharger networks around the country, when that happens.
Do you think Musk is not aware of this? He’s a bright guy right? And Toyota is his arch nemesis.
Why do you think he had just let go of >$1G of Tesla’s stock last week?
Don't think so much. Just wait for 25th of each month and invest in Tesla, EV infrastructure companies and crypto!!
Singapore’s decision to adopt EV (and build thousands of charging stations to support), will end up in an environmental disaster (continued GHG emissions) and a waste disposal nightmare!
Note: EVs will never attain a zero carbon footprint, insofar as battery disposal has not attained an environmentally-sustainable solution!
Facts:
(1) SG Gencos are 95% NG-fueled. CO2 and NOx are still spewing into our atmosphere … and at an even higher emissions rate.
(2) Unlike the larger countries, our green options on wind, geothermal and hydroelectric sourced are almost zilch.
(3) The academia on solar power had advised the GoS that SG is too cloudy, dusty and humid for solar to be viable long term. Can’t justify the breakeven for solar’s minuscule output … and with time, panels will be covered in dust, grime, moss and mildew.
(4) NCCS, EDB, EMA, MPA and CAAS had jointly announced the development and deployment of SG’s low-carbon technology solutions shall be focused on Hydrogen and CCS. The lifespan of EVs will inevitably be challenged … and the writing’s already on the wall.
https://www.nccs.gov.sg/media/press-release/singapore-looks-to-develop-and-deploy-lc-technological-solution
(5) The GoS/NCCS-sponsored Hydrogen study has also been published recently.
https://www.nccs.gov.sg/docs/default-source/default-document-library/hydrogen-study-report.pdf
(5) BMW and Daimler-Benz have recently announced their forward plan on developing Hydrogen engines (be it fuel cell, or H2-internal combustion engines), joining Toyota in the fray. These 3 large vehicle manufacturers are now up against Elon Musk’s emerging empire. News have come in that Volkswagen AG (including Audi, Skoda, SEAT) is also turning their cross-hair toward hydrogen vehicles.
Note: The Toyota Mirai, running on H2 fuel cells, is already on sale in Japan and the USA.
Toyota had also debuted a Corolla, powered by a hydrogen internal combustion engine in 2021.
https://youtu.be/KZuAObOxaW0
(6) In similar light, EM has also recently announced its forward R&D focus on R&D for Hydrogen fuel cells and CCS technologies. So can we see where they are all heading to?
Just some fun fact, according to the analysis below. Singapore policy is definitely insufficient to meet 1.5C, Paris agreement. Believe will have more drastic policy in coming years. EM has to speed up their game plan, else will be irrelevant soon.
https://climateactiontracker.org/countries/singapore/
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/politics/revised-carbon-tax-rate-for-2024-what-to-expect-till-2030-to-be-announced-in
law dept got so many hypocrites... they pretend to be nice to the boss but behind backstab each other and play all kinds of dirty politics... from lawyers to support folks, all snakes playing one another. the folks that left are not innocent also lah
Rumor that anr lawyer just throw letter. Sg law department must be quite a shithole to loose 4 - 5 staff in just 2 yrs!
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People got off day what, cannot use off day time to post here meh?
EM staff so ON meh? Off day also working no time to talk or posting comments here?
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Not sure why are u doing here writing post if “life is precious ( as you claimed), might as well spend time with family or look for job “? Why then are u not working ? instead , coming here to write post and waste time ? Em pays you to idle ? You accused pple Stir sh-t here ? If there isn’t so much sh-t from pple like u ( who talk cok and sing song) whom is still around idling instead of working then there wouldn’t be sh-t to stir in the first place …. ! So go and work and sing your corporate song , so spying around , bloody a*
Why we need our own forum board? What benefit does it have? If so free want to stir sh-t , might as well spend time with family and look for job. Life is v short please don’t waste it on this thing.. it’s just a job
FYI, we have our own forum board here, the conversation already started:
https://www.thelayoff.com/exxonmobil-singapore
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The whole forced ranking is corrupted with manipulation and power abuse. Doing excellent base work, super high quality work should be rewarded rather because someone didn’t do well and become a mess, then another become highly visible to clean up, and get rewarded, ranking should be based on highly Quality work, not highly visible work! such reward system only promote short term gain, the company is not efficient because no one rewarded for high quality base work, quite but excellent, no recycle, no rework, however today many of issues are repeated one, why is so? Many want to do highly visible work, no one like to do base work, if you do well, no one appreciates as expected to do, but there are many cannot even do base well get promoted to higher rank, then more work become lower Quality, more decision become lower quality, ask if your problem facing exist long ago? Mostly yes and why not resolved.
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This is so common and is one if the reasons I left the company.
@79kfo+16zEvLP3
my ranking was affected as my achievements for the ranked year was deemed "relatively not competitive". To a certain degree, I acknowledged that my assigned task was a lower level work from what I have been doing. However, this important task was assigned to me because they need someone with expertise to ensure minimal hiccups.
So then, I am penalized for not being competitive compared to my CL peers, for something that the organization wanted me to do.
I know I am not the smartest around but this logic does not sound right.
For those who are taking up more mundane (less showmanship) work, just beware that it does not mean much during the ranking.
In fact, if you have been following the discussions, you will know that the ranking is not a fair system. It is not about how well you did your job. It is about how well you are sold to the bosses that what you have done a great job. :(
Left EM btw. happier life now. :)
Those who look at short term interest -this year ‘s bonus and increment ( just like the company’s Mgmt), u are just prolonging your “death” sentence and playing with fire on your career. Make your rounds and check with your peer how much your experience as a generalist is worth in the market place . Another 5 yrs will experience in fossil fuel will become even more fossil which only museum has a place for u. Current Mgmt team in their late 40s and late 50s ( GC) , you think they are interested in mid to long term view of the company? If the ship capsize , they are either reached the shore or near the shoreline …. They will go in sunset enjoying their retirement …. While we young sailors are all either drown in the ocean or trapping water to stay afloat .
why did nokia and kodak failed?
Unfortunately, Kodak decided to cling on to analog cameras far too long, and eventually lost the game. Nokia too has a similar story. ... When its competitors started focusing on data and the internet, Nokia didn't care. The company instead continued to focus on its hardware.
Give some thought to our future whether to stay or leave…
if want to tender then tender on 16 Dec. you get full year aws. if you tender on 14 Dec you lose out half a month of pro-ration (11/12* 3* salary). don't know whether 15 Dec is considered full month or not but think so, cos when I joined 10+ years ago they made me joined on a 15 that was just before a public holiday... so that I get half a month more pro-ration that year. that time the sup and mgr so kind.
@7anyl+16zEvLP3 Join before the 14th of the month and resign after the 15th of the month. You will maximise the payout this way in the job here.
Has anyone been communicated increment or promotion yet?
Bonus and leave balance encashment will always be pro-rata.
You think HR is chop carrot head issit?
If tender resignation in dec, bonus is full or prorata?
oh man yeah.. those CCAs... my friends who left were saying how liberating it is that their new workplace no CCAs
same, was covering 2 BUs, projects and misc CCAs just because TMTS workforce reduction, PIP and resignation. So numb and lack of motivation at work. But it's ok, farming salary for now.
One of my colleagues resigned and now I have to cover him while my boss try to hire another person. But my boss still expects me to do all the monthly reports and stewardships on top of my double cover which is very heavy on me. He is OK to push back some of our planned initiatives, but if I can't get any of my big ticket items completed this ranking cycle, this will affect my performance review right. Anyone here facing similar issue?
@78oom+16zEvLP3 What's not gonna happen? Mass resignation has happened and is still happening. If you are saying that the company won't crumble under these resignations, then I somewhat agree. But if Jan increment is low, be prepared for another exodus.
the bosses will tell you we don't make most of the money from petrol, it's from lubes
Sometime back, I read in a local car forum, calling for a boycott on pumping petrol at Esso and Shell … because it was deemed that SPC was always held their pump prices and was usually the last to raise prices.
The belief of the forum community was that by boycotting Esso and Shell, the oil companies will go bankrupt and will inevitably be forced to lower our prices!
I had imagined how stoopid, narrow and small their minds are.
They thought that ALL our locally-refined products go ONLY to fill up the retail gas stations scattered around the island! Perhaps that’s how the various local SMEs they work for, operate.
When actually, less than 10% of EM’s production goes to local retail, while the rest of our products are exported.
The point of my story?
I’m beginning to have similar thoughts stirring inside me - on the naysayers in this forum, encouraging EM staff to resign en-mass, to “teach” the company a lesson … as they want to see the company / manufacturing site to crumble in the sadistic mindset.
Well, I can tell ya one thing, that’s not gonna happen.
Come on, it’s Sunday and tomorrow we get ready to die for this amazing company! Let’s shout we are ExxonMobil together! Let’s charge at the call of GC. Woo hoo’ winning!!!