will increment be communicated tomorrow???
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The communicated increment range is 1-14%. So how much would the average NON Hi-po performer get?
Anything >10% will, of course be reserved for the OPD and OP categories.
EPs would probably get 6-9%
VGs (aka middle-third, 3rd quintile) 4-5%.
GPs 2-3%.
NIs 1% … including those above, but who are already at >100% of their SR.
NSI zilch. Too bad, so sad.
@7uhfn+16zEvLP3 Second that!
Was shared recently on increment, don’t expect much :(
We will see how it goes on 1 Dec sharing and Jan 2022 new wave of tendering!
@7uchm+16zEvLP3 It's true. Just like how all the attrition is just a temporary spike. Attrition will stop once EM starts lowering hiring criteria and hire less qualified/brilliant people who are unable to join tech companies!
Well, well, well.
Tech companies offering higher pay is a "temporary spike".
Ok ok ok. Sounds about right.
Thank you for enlightening.
She keeps talking about HR and herself fought very hard to keep the AWS and LTSA.
First, without those, EM pay is fxxked up, even more.
Second, so it was true there was a demand from the masters to cut AWS and LTSA, I guess they finally agreed to keep it mainly because they start to see positive cash flow in 3Q this year.
Third, the fact that not many Questions asked in your forum, it is a demonstration of employee confidence in your speech. Apparently, you fxxking lost it, GC.
No need to continue whining, now it's transparent that you will be paid at 50th percentile, shell AND chevron both has good open positions.
Let the games begin.
If I start asking my boss when will increment be communicated, will he or she think that I'm considering leaving?
Guys, how much increment you have got? Heard many departments are communicating to employee this week.
Years of experience:
Last Ranking:
Increment:
With or without CL bump:
Generally are you feeling happy witht the increment given there was none in 2020?
You know why we're given more work to do? It's cause everyone is resigning even when theyre bring in more staff in. 30 in 40 out, how to get back to our norm like that?
Move on guys, we are all adults here… decide for your future and move on… Nobody owes us a living, cheers!
“We’re going through the salary process today,” Woods told employees. “As we get into Jan. 1, when raises come out, that’s going to be, I think, people will be encouraged by that, given what we had to do in 2020.”
^How would people be encouraged if the raises are just normal and do not make up for 2021 pay freeze, as well as not benchmarking to banks/tech/ecommerce?
CL jump is 5% not much most folks tender get >5% jump anyway.
Increment based on most recent ranking. Previous post stating it is LOWER OF is misleading. 1-14% does not include CL jump yet. So for example, if you got top rank, O/D, and also CL jump, expect 18-20% type of increase.
Also, the 5% average SWB increase has been the normal target for the last X-X years (basically, long time).
This means that the increments have 'returned to normal'. No more, no less.
what is SR?
Incorrect. Increment is based on most recent PA and not lower of 2020/2021.
Increments will be calculated based on the LOWER of the 2020 and 2021 PA result.
The 2022 range is 1% to14% (not including promotion, if given).
NSI will get 0%.
Those who are already >100% of their SR will get a consolation 1%
Not true. The % communicated by HR clearer states that the max increment given for 2022 is >10%
Is it true average increment is only 5%?
Since we know lowest NSI is 0%, does that mean even highest Outstanding is at most 10% only?
@7rjxc+16zEvLP3
Look, we haven’t even attained the site’s final (even lower) TMTS headcount target - due by 2023/4.
More load shedding will be needed to satisfy TMTS projection!
Based on the two comments below me, seems that EM strategy is to get as many local engineers as possible to quit and replace them with lower cost KLTC and BTC. I guess local attrition rate not high enough for the past 2 years!
Agree.
It looks EM is just making itself an "Average" employer compared to other oil majors, however it wants the best talents.
Forget it lah bro, one dollar can only get one dollar work.
The outstanding group only matches other competitor's pay, however ask yourself how much chance you can get in outstanding or sustain in outstanding?
In my two cents worth opnion, attrition is going to spike in Jan 2022.
Good luck.
Manufacturing sites just had the compensation & me. Key takeaways for me are:
If you are an engineer/field supervisor/first line, ranked very good and below, for a similar position in shell (or other oil majors), shell highly likely pays more.
If you are ranked outstanding, you might be paid same at shell.
If you are excellent, it's anybody guess. I would guess lower than shell.
The decision is yours, cheers and happy friday!
You are right there isn't a way to properly quantify it. To one's wish if they want to claim they are net zero carbon even. Just like the nonsense EM claims about how they are working to reduce GHG using CCS, in fact they sold the CO2 to companies, which injected them to depleted oil fields to produce even more oil. Talking about creative PR. Just like how the whole performance ranking system works, year after year. It's like a striptease club, every being try to outdo each other to get some attention.
Also, apologies but LOL at the comment that Bukom is going to be a "low carbon" plant.
There is no such thing as a low carbon integrated refinery/petchem site (yet).
Shell's announcement to reduce their refining capacity by 50% will reduce emissions but not get rid of it totally.
The new pyrolysis plant that they are building is nothing to shout about. It only has a capacity of 50,000tpa. Furthermore, this is a plastic recycling unit and also consumes energy. Notice that they are extremely silent about the emissions related to this plant.
Not dissing the initiative as it will enable more plastic recycling and make the economy more circular but 50,000tpa is a drop in the ocean compared to the amount of plastics they (and us) make.
This week, probably the more exciting announcement is the one coming from EDB. But press statements only indicate "aspirations" and very light on details. A space to watch.
Shell Bukom is transforming into low carbon plant. The refinery is right sized to accommodate the new biofuel plant and Group 2 lubes plant. The new plant will implement heavy digitalisation. The porject will likely complete somewhere mid of this decade. This transformation is not only in SG but across the various Shell plants worldwide. Talking about goal settings, strategy implementation, project development and execution, digitalisation effort, EM is way way way behind with all the ongoing "wayang". All the best.
@7pote+16zEvLP3 it halved its refining capacity; so the emissions and presence drop. So if it didnt have the new plant, probably means closing shop alrdy. this is their biz approach to pivot.
LPSA is part of technician progression
WTF is this blardy stoopid criteria
Technicians here train to be good at working doing their job or must be good at talking cork and boolsheet
This company is really getting bad to worse becoming a joke company with biggest jokers in charge calling themselves Leadershiit
Good luck lah em if this is your direction
Dec is coming liao
Shell in Singapore is winning us in the sustainability space. We only have CCS in concept stage but they already have a plant and a target to work towards. Where’s GC in this? How come we are always slower than the competition.
I quit the company 5 months ago from engineering services to go into another industry (sustainability). I didn’t get a much higher salary bump as compared to peers who jump to tech industries but felt much happier now without getting fed BS about TMTS, PIP. Can see that the company is still helpless with regards to attrition rate. Knew of a few more engineers who threw letter this month without waiting for the increment in Dec.
@7nygi+16zEvLP3 Houston based employee here….. well said my friend, well said. Thanks for posting. Global problem in the company. I would add that people make efforts for leaders that motivate them. Not for transparent slogans engineered by consultants.
First, WAEM... now EMagine.
How about bosses focus on staffing teams to cope with the burden of workload.
Don't need another initiative lah. Where got time??
If people want to do something, then fix the reward system to give enough credit to the majority that keeps this big ship moving and running. It is the people who do the day-in day-out work that bosses cannot see that need to be taken care of. One time special bonus or smth different lah.
My few cents
Fact: Unlike engineers and management staff, when >50% of our Process technicians and OSs quit, the manufacturing site will be forced to initiate BCP and shutdown some major units, to run on limp mode.
This will not be sustainable for the mid-to-long term … and EM will need to declare force majeure eventually.
KNN this company called em
We Frontliners most of the times days and nites always operating on minimum or even below minimum manpower yet mgmt coming out with Technicians improvement plans
What plan some more
Are we Technicians so stupid id--t d-mb or what the ones succesfully been started up commisioning running operating the plants since DAY ONE and making miney and yet always becomes the easy target for mgmt to bully us
Lets see how long how many of those new hires Technicians will stay lah wish them all well
Even a Contractor Labourer is a great help for us at site nowadays
Can tahan just tahan lah anyway Dec is just around the corner lets see how lah
Idk abt the ppl complaining here. And u would think the outside world is much better? Just go to thelayoff Chevron shell etc and u will see bunch of complains too. Quit and go there lor, and complain at their layoff.com...
I understand many of you all felt unfairly treated and would rather sacrifice your salary/benefits to change a new environment.
BUT changing a new job may or may not help you feel better. In fact, you have to accept the fact and move on. I know it is not easy.
Grass is always seem greener on the other side. Just stay here and do your work. No matter how bad it is. The salary here is not too bad. So, please stay
Guys what do you feel, will there be more resignation in your section/department after Jan 2022 ?