bla bla bla.....while EM stays strong....bla bla bla
look at what you typed here. are you trying to convince yourself or others, if for others, I suggest you can save it, if for yourself, you can think whatever...enjoy your stay, lime enjoying your luxury dinner beforw Titanic sink.
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When is exxonmobil closing down
Seems like Shell is always advanced and ahead of em leh
Be grateful, Shell is closing down, while EM stay strong. If EM is bad, Shell is even a worse place to be with dirty politics, egoistic people, and plenty of harrassments in many forms. Safety performance is sh-t, mess up operation run by cronies and you will survive only by connections.
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Look at the mirror. Incompetent runs through all level of EM. Not only FLS. Take charge of your life and stop blaming others.
I cannot help it but to agree on this part Unexciting people… it is like a disease spreading across to the entire company.. even for process team the moral will just get lower and lower. Because of a handful of incompetent FLS which is good enough to ruined the entire business unit..
U need 48 months to recoup the bond and that is a long time.
Cons:
- Sunset industry. Imagine learning not transferable skills.
- The department, company, or position may not last another 4 years. You may even get PIP before that and that is sometimes not within your control because it is very subjective or plainly they need someone to be at the bottom.
- Unexciting people - the good and experienced ones have left, you will be working with a lot of frustrations because no one really knows what's going on. Rules, processes were set last time, but no one understands it now. Tweaking by current mgmt made it worse. Imagine u have leaders asking what is the current procedures to freshies... That is happening. Morale is low. And you are managing the mistakes from your new colleagues from the so called 'high value engineering centre'.
Scroll to earlier posts, they were some insights about project department, DTI, low cost country outsourcing.
You have to make decision yourself as we don't know your situation and aspiration. But make sure you make a conscious and well informed decision.
you are just there to support the transition of the project management team to bangalore
Take it. Project department is okay. Whether you will succeed or not its up to your capability.
Any project engineers from Exxon can share how it’s like working there? Got an offer from them for this role which is a 20% increment (~$825) of my basic salary (including allowance) compared to my scholarship bond company now. Additionally this project engineer role has a 3 month AWS which my current one does now.
If I break my bond, I have to pay back $40k+ for the bond. However, the location and travel time is very far for someone staying at the east which is a big consideration. Any insights to the job itself is also very welcomed! Thanks
derate, A probability.
workforce reduction, A probability.
PIP, B probability verified (0.08), you still think risk is low? that means EM didn't teach you well, another reason why you cannot survive there.
Either de-rate, put on sales or write off.
Any future plan for EM to exit Singapore?
Last time maybe have chance ExxonMobil will give u some grand for x years of service.. Now after working for so long if you never kana PIP or warning letter count yourself lucky… the longer you stay the harder it is, especially when you are stuck at a certain tech level.. basically you need to do something like Elon mars in order to be promoted… if after you do big things and get promoted well congratulations to you… but if you do something and something went wrong also congratulations to you because you will be sinking in a very deep hole.. worst of all kana make use Liao and follow instructions until do wrong thing then good game lor… career end
Part time cleaner receives Rolex for working 10 years. We will get “RoLan” PIP for not performing well as our YEE is higher than the newbies and expect to do more. Ranking period and many SLS are badmouthing other for not doing a good job.
Cleaners received Rolex watches for working 10 years in Paradise group. What is the future working in EM’s sunset industry? Waiting for PIP or retrenchment after China 1 or China 2 start up? Shell will Shut down bukom operations soon. Singapore is too expensive for everything. Labour cost is too high compare to China , eventually we loss out. Older Employees in their late fifties easily become liabilities to the company. IT move s to India, HR moves to Thailand. SSM taken over by most Indians. What is left for Singaporeans in the future? EM doesn’t own us anything, move out if possible. We cannot change the company but ourselves only.
EM doesn't owe us anything, we need to be limber and switch career if needed. O&G is a sunset industry. If my boss asks me what is my 5 years plan, I’ll tell him I plan to leave.
Average employees are "very good"!
Why am I seeing average employees returning to law and finance dep? Useless outside?
“Shell Seeks to Exit Petrochemicals in Singapore
Production assets may be up for sale, repurposing, or closure as the oil major targets net zero by 2050.”
Looks like the heydays of petrochemicals in Singapore has passed its peak. Outsourcing/offshoring is the way to go
Yea. Likely after china 1&2 are up, sg will be downsized. hahaha, sg folks helping to set up china are indirectly affecting their own future.. what an irony.
Is it true after China 1 & 2, SG will becoming irrelevant?
Singapore is for sale.
at least they move on and get assignments leh. they get so much money than you leh. sg complain and still stuck under dr.
never had good experience with KLTC engineers. Cant troubleshoot for nuts nor understand the process. Really a burden to the base engineers.
They are more like reporting engineers, claiming credit with information and work that the local folks had fed them and done. I guess the KLTC folks dont mind as most of them move on to better roles (supervisory, or overseas assignments) just by doing that.
MPE stands for Malaysian Process Engineer.
Don't believe me? Go check it out at goto/acronym
They are hiring bottom bucket engineer from a bottom bucket Malaysia university as those good PMA leave in hordes to better paying companies. GL at KL covering their own as--s while celebrating mediocre work.
Over the past few years, I must say the standards of KLTC technical support have deteriorated significantly. Several years ago when the supporting engineers were still called PMA, I had encountered a few good ones who were actually able to step in and support the units when site PE were leaving in hordes. Now, the MPEs ( think this is the 3rd change in name?) are so incompetent that they are adding on to the workload of site PEs. MPEs are supposed to be the one monitoring the unit and providing long term optimisation ideas but somehow it ends up that the process engineers have to provide those data to the KLTC engineers. Offshoring is inevitable but at least ensure the standard of the technology center first
To the potential bond breaker
Don’t break the scholarship bond to work for EM. It’s not worth it, and EM always feel like you are serving them at their pleasure, which means they are doing you a favor by giving you a job. Will they value you? Only for a selected few. It’s easy to feel very confident at a young age, but I have seen very capable people not hit the heights that their capabilities should, just because of one or two quirks which are very subjective to certain bosses. It can be random. If you feel like Indiana Jones (who happens to be white by the way, and I assume you are not) who wants to risk it all, wait until your scholarship bond is done. Then come in and have fun at a pretty competitive company, which has the old school presitge (and perspectives) but doesn’t pay all that well on average. All the best.
Same pay do many many things, if you sc--w up one thing, love letter will be on the way for you to accept 😁
Good job, which means you’re productive!
Did the headcount get permanently reduced across every crafts in ES? Seems like one person is managing twice or thrice BUs as compared to several years ago
Nah... Gen Z today expected to be VP in 3 to 6 years... Anythingblinger is unacceptable!
https://www.businessinsider.com/job-title-inflation-gen-z-great-resignation-overtime-pay-resume-2023-2?amp
''Wow that’s like a really bad system to work for long term… Plan on changing jobs every 2 years personally. Do you think it’s worth to break a 2 year scholarship bond to join EM for the higher base pay to kick start my career?"
There are a few things you must before doing that:
- How much you need to pay when you break the bond?
- Are you damme sure that once you break the scholarship bond you are able to get a job EM?
- Think carefully before you break the bond, cause the company you are breaking the bond with highly unlike they will want you back in the future...
All the best and good luck
we are all eventually going to be replaced by remote cost centers and expat engineers. so much for creating jobs for locals.
Wow that’s like a really bad system to work for long term… Plan on changing jobs every 2 years personally. Do you think it’s worth to break a 2 year scholarship bond to join EM for the higher base pay to kick start my career?
you want the truth?
They don't say it but it's to build up the numbers again so that there is enough fats to cut the expensive people. As a fresh hire you are protect for the first 2 years and considering the fact that the company made 55b profit, you will be rewarded with decent increment even without putting in much effort. This year we have seen people who spent 6 months doing onboarding and get rewarded better than the other folks working their life away.
However, good luck to you after 2 years because you won't be protected unless you proved that you are worth developing into management. If you decided to pick the technical career path, the fact is that it doesn't matter if you have good knowledge or experience, there are plenty of replacement from KL or Bangalore who may not have the same level of skillset as you but are and will be eager to take your position.
On top of that, since you are asking as a potential fresh hire, the cycle repeats and eventually you will get caught up and end up as 1 of the many victims in the company.
Like if the rest of you think this is better than the WAEM survey.
Hmmm I saw quite a few recent reviews on Glassdoor talking about the super bad management and how they’re ruining the company and running it into the ground.
Not sure about going in as a fresh graduate now as an engineer…
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Best time ever working with EM in 2023. As a fresh grad expect to receive big yearly increment and fast CL advancement. You’ll be VP in 10 to 15 years earning big bucks and EM shares.
Anyone knows how it's like working at ExxonMobil in 2023? Curious about the Project Engineer role as a fresh grad. What the remuneration package like and the work life? Anything about the interview process too?
If you are a real employee not just some random spammer, u can see the number on the intranet.