When things like this happened, you can easily tell who are the empty vessels sitting at that high level position. People look at the tech lead and principal to produce result but they just can't do anything and still consume resources, world class indeed
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@875a
Tru tht, if thy so CRISPY then ccfu still cannot start? principals ish JLB
@874y so many overpaid people in crisp and em. If they are so good already left for better pastures. Fact is they can’t find anything better.
Imagine laying off the CRISP people right now. 3 months start up just to get kick out of the company, building something special indeed with all the crisp value
Still on the hot mic, nobody is sharing what was said. Until it is shared, else people are just stirring
It will be mix of HBF and Manufacturing
If I interpreted the news correctly, 3500 is the whole whole population of EM in SG, so let's say is indeed 15%, means is 525 people will get lay off, but here is the catch, LCM said is MPT will get affected, meaning they use the total population (MPT and nMPT) percentage to lay off the group of MPT only.
Wow smart! Don't worry guys, just keep on farming till the end, what's the worst thing could have happen? Retrench and find new job lor.
@874e no one knows now. Each function is to "design" their future org, and look at each individual's performance, skills and fit, to decide whether they stay or leave.
I'll be so happy to be told I don't perform well, and don't have the right fit or skills for future org. Just give me the package!
Are the 500 job losses from those working at HBF or it includes manufacturing as well?
Record down whatever 1-1/close door communications with your supervisors. Especially if u initiate the conversation on problems u r facing. U never know when they will use it to backstab u. Trust me, ive been through this type of backstabbing before my very own supervisor. This can serve as evidences to MOM if required. Make a note somewhere in your own hp if the quaterly feedback never happens. Protect own interest at times like this.
@8746 it’s a man’s job!
great job to those supporting china start up. thank you for setting this up.
Hot Mic was brutal lol. U guys are so done.
Exciting, gonna see LCM in jurong, she better don't use the phone while walking, safety folks need to catch and raise impact
there are people who heard it.
ask them in the next forum and see how they response.
abandoning the corporate office. if you think harder, this is the first step of divesting. no future ambitions here already
Unpopular opinion, but I believe it was nothing. I believe our local leaders are doing their best to help us and they are in not easy roles as leaders.
What was the hot mic incident after the 9pm communications session?
What was the hot mic content? Any specifics?
Lost all respect for the LCM, VP and the rest of the Grammy Award Winning Actors on the communication at 9pm.
Wonder who else heard the hot mic incident?
No official retrenchments for nmpts, so the extra headcounts will eventually go into PIP to be terminated. The PIP termination benefits is very much lesser compared to the retrenchment benefits. Just take the package better than nothing.
Doesn’t matter hbf or mfg, if you are CL26 and above but your roles are not relevant to field work… that role is probably high risk.
EM is equal opportunity employer so regardless of hbf or mfg we have equal opportunity lah
will they cut the hbf peeps or manufacturing peeeps first
So how you all buy any new launch or car lately?
this is where farmers come and say we been farming since 2021, been fun while at it. good job to fellow farmers
EM is really doing things without decency. At least offer voluntary package so that people can appreciate. One side no voluntary package, one side pip people and force them to leave even after working 20 years for EM.
WTF.
The money they save by doing such sinful stuff is cursed, whoever gets dividends from this money will be cursed for generations.
Don’t waste time already lah… do everything you can to prepare for your next career. I don’t trust anyone now. Anything you say, will be used against you. Be careful of what you say now to your “friends”… with ranking. Everyone is a secretly hoping to see you and your family down… who doesn’t like a s-b tale.
I enjoyed it ALOT during the last layoff. I am sure many that survived echo my sentiments. Lol. We had a farewell for them btw…
The moment you are identified to be retrenched. Your value goes down to zero. Forget about your wealth accumulation. Plan for your wealth preservation especially those with heavy financial commitments.
It was Wed am, 1 Oct. We all received an email at around 10pm on Tue night, about an "important announcement" the next day. The email came right at about the same time when Brussels was making their announcement.
We could tell it was a very last minute decision to announce, and even the function leads were caught by surprise. Since Singapore was the last of HC10 to be impacted, we speculated that global just then decided to ride on the timing of announcements in Canada and Brussels barely 36 hours ago, instead of waiting for another opportune time, like when we divest retail.
Key changes by end 2027:
1) 10-15% of workforce to be cut, excluding manufacturing non-MPT folks. It's not a targeted work force reduction, hence the estimate. At a maximum, it is estimated that about 500 jobs, or 1 out of 3 MPTs, will go
2) Closure of Harbourfront office in central Singapore. Everyone who makes the cut are to work from the Jurong refinery or Jurong Island complex in the far West of Singapore. This includes home-based employees. Depending on where you live, commute can be two hours each way
3) SOP1 (olefins cr--ker) to be mothballed by 1Q26
4) It was clarified in the Q&A that there is no voluntary redundancy; but people who leave will be paid severance
5) Every person will be notified of their fate by mid-Dec. Between now and then, the respective functions will work out the numbers and plan out their leftover organizations. Emphasis was made that we'd know latest by mid-Dec, so likely we will know earlier.
6) Selection of people that stay is based on performance, skills and fit for new org.
There's a long lead time to transition this, 2 years by end 2027. Right now we don't know who is impacted, how many people will leave in each function, what the severance package will look like, or when the first batch will leave. No details were given by function, unlike in 2021, where scripts were rehearsed and they had already work the numbers when they made the country announcement.
Mood in office is a mix of sadness, caution and relief, as people digest the news. It is a shock to all because, unlike in Canada or Europe where there were leaks for months in advance, in Singapore we were constantly told future cuts would only happen through sale of assets, PIPs and natural attrition. There were resignations in the last one year, that would not have happened if they had heard of a possible cut with severance package.
Many asked during the Q&A about voluntary severance, so obviously a significant group would want to voluntarily leave. Maybe more than 500 people! But similar to what we heard of in the UK and Australia, there's no voluntary offered. With other upcoming changes like retail divestment, the footprint in Singapore will shrink more than just the 500 jobs impacted in this exercise. More to come. It's a blessing to get out with severance.
@870m your appraisal is based on your work performance how much value you add. No how many mcs you take 😂😂😂 you can use up your mc and still help the company churn out margin and still get promoted. Cmi means cmi
@86zg agreed totally with this. I was having lingering shoulder issue but didnt took action as i do not want to clock up MCs and affect my appraisal.
In the end i was still PIP-ed. Ownself before Company la. Once u r the target board no matter what u do is useless.take care ownself first
@870h snitching rat
Someone just self exposed themselves. Don't know the overview of what's going on but wanna act like big dog talking about sales of this and that. That is why sg still got fats to cut, thanks for taking 1 for the team
Gosh. Everyone is so negative here! I encourage you to look at the brightside of life! There are many things we can be thankful for! I love my colleagues, I wear my Mobil1 racing polo tee with pride!
@86w1 don’t be naive la… SAR2 is a jewel for the corporate. If not for SAR2, CRISP is doom la. Linde is useless.
@86ys sorry you have BO and bad breath with black finger nails. Your only option after retrenchment is GrabFood and phv.
The hr will also be last fired after firing us
Yes, asking people to leave now so you get higher chance to get severance. Reverse the reverse game
Covid taught us that with or without your contributions. It doesn’t matter to the EM.
My plan is to take advantage of all the benefits we have. Making sure we are prepared for anything that comes.
Have you been procrastinating that injury you are facing? Good. Take action and make that appointment to fix it. It is our rights!
This chain would be so good for us to support one another through the long transition, exchange news of impact coming across different functions, process and digest changes. But it's so distasteful and disgusting for female colleagues when people don't use EDMW and troll language, and run this chain down.