Thread regarding ExxonMobil Corp. layoffs

I think it's really time for some change in the organization structure. Right now, it's too heavy on top , you can have one or two sls reporting to a DH in a department with made up advisory roles to fill the middle management. It used to look like a triangle, now it's more like the Petronas tower.

There are a lot of senior engineers who still hold on to the old ways, while the new guys are the ones doing most of the work and getting burned out. You have specialist, principles, complex , lead, etc but all doing the same thing .You can see this in ES. The middle layer is almost gone, and that's causing a big gap and no future proofing. Maybe HR starts to realize this.

Honestly, I think this retrenchment might be a good thing for Exxon as long as they pick the right people. Hopefully they keep the ones who actually do the work, not just the ones who like to talk.

@87pv maybe they promise you Outstanding with distinction start start with heart heart how? ROFL… sh-t show and sh-t scores they give. It is subjective and relative, so you su-k thumb and take the abuse! Ain’t worth it guys, EM ain’t the same anymore… may the luckiest get the package!

Either way I'm out. Wait for jackpot, else just leave

@87kc yaaay! I want to be first in the queue!

Checked all boxes. Whom should I approach to pick me?

Are you too highly paid for your role?
Have you been in your comfort zone for too long?
Can you be replaced by AI or outsourced?
Is your department an expense to the organisation?
Use these questions to guide you.

Ask Yrself this question.

• Are you too highly paid for your role?
• Have you been in your comfort zone for too long?
• Can you be replaced by AI or outsourced?
• Is your department an expense to the organisation?

Use these questions to guide you.

How is the progress with name list? All departments haven’t finalised yet?

@87c1 the DH seems like JW…🤣🤣🤣

Time to move out.

China one has replaced EM Singapore site as the Asia hub. EM Singapore will continue to downsize in the future and finally exit due to high operational costs.

@87dt
Which clowns? many principals around to educate

crisp is not crisp, just risp because ccfu is not done. Bunch of clowns trying to run the show but now corporate has stabbed them so badly, who has the mood to start up when their job is not even secured now.

crips done already but why still so many expats around

@87by 2020 the first time they implemented the mandatory PIP, my whole team jumped in to support a colleague who kena. We helped his PIP assignment, encouraged him to stick with it. Luckily he put his head down and just grind through it. It was so hard. At that time we all didn’t know, but announcement of study would come in 4 months.. He walked away with package.

@87bd I don’t know why people down vote you on unvested RSU. I read here a few weeks ago that in UK they gave. But in Canada not for people who indicate no mobility, only for people who indicate mobility but no jobs for them. So for us probably depends on whether XOM wants to be generous with us. But I think they will, cos for some people it’s very substantial.

@86wr Singaporeans only want to be managers ma...Look around every plant, key people who actually run them(MCs, FLSs, senior techs and key process and equipment engineers) are majority Indians, ML Chinese and Malaysians. Try taking them out one shot and see ...
One of the DH in SOP2 used to say openly in morning meeting when there is a major issues that this is not for NTU and NUS grads to solve....
Talk talk talk only.....

@87ab very dirty trick!

@87ad those on PIP, do your best, document all emails, WhatsApp text etc… remember everyone is against you. make sure you do it. And be proactive.. once you pass. Do not give EM a chance to let you go with 3 months wage! They will have to give you the severance. All the best!

Does anyone know if I can get unvested RSU if made redundant?

everyone on PIP, try your best to be a decent human and pass PIP. do it for yourself. our mgmt will try to help you if your attitude don't too su-ks one

For those on PIP program, you will know the results by end Nov. If fail, you won’t get retrenchment benefits as it will be communicated in mid December. That’s why they wait till mid December to announce. Good Luck!

my performance is so bad, I’m a wrong fit to position the future org for success, and I got no knowledge and skills to deal with India.
please select me to kick out. And ASAP, got no fk left to give
Thank you for your attention to this matter!!

Don’t say people who stay take the sh-t lah… it’s a bright career for outstanding, excellent and very good people. If you all work 4-5 more years, the salary is worth it already. Very few companies now still pays like Exxon, especially in this kind of climate. Plus medical benefits leh.

People like me need improvement (some of us significant improvement), so we need money and time to go improve ourselves. Maybe for many years we will not be able to find jobs, and even if find a job it pays less than half Exxon pay.

Just see it like a marriage no feelings already, divorce is a good ending and the rich spouse pay alimony lah. We all get deserted is heartbreaking one

@879x yeah this is so messed up and worrying. The last layoff, originally those guys were selected for PIP. Then they passed and were selected for layoff.

Now I am worried. Not selected for severance also bad… I would rather they let us take and go… I’ll sign up to leave.

@879j exactly my point, ironic that bad performers get big oackage bonus while good one stay and take on sh-t. How can performance be a measure to decide?

it's gonna be the same as 2021 la, after sg study, you still see so many JLB KLKK earning their 16k salary. When you see what they do can be easily taken up by younger or newer engineers. No difference this time round, you will still see the same thing.

@879d bad performance is rewarded. Lol while the good ones get to stay in this sh-t hole. If you have a godmother it’s okay. But if you don’t, you are next in the PIP list, to be stepped on.

Good luck everyone!

@879a+16zEvLP3 Mgmt already said performance is one of the 3 factors to determine if someone gets let go this time round. Please pay attention or you will be one of them.

If you fail PIP, means dismissed due to poor performance. Will pay you your 3 months AWS and f*** off.

Retrenchment package is release due to position made redundant, not performance related. Anyway, the law does not mandate companies to pay retrenchment package. Companies just need to inform MOM of such exercise and demonstrate support to help you find job. So don’t assume you will always nice package.. https://www.tal.sg/tadm/faqs/advisory/i-have-been-retrenched#

For PIPs, management holds the decision whether pass or not mah right? If failed means can get the retrenchment package or no?

how many non-MPTs vs MPTs in singapore?

If the technicians are not affected by the retrenchment exercise this time, the % of MPTs being retrenched is actually much higher.

This smells like 2021 all over again. We cut 300 positions back then which was a lot of head counts and technicians weren’t affected. It will be worse this time round and you don’t even have the tech bo-m to absorb those getting retrenched

Good luck

Okay whoever hears the package details must post here ok. I think I will be one of the first to hear cos my bosses were managing me out into PIP before the announcement. I will post when I hear.

@8785 hang in there! Severance package will be like hitting the jackpot! Pat on your back for enduring the times you didn’t believe it and yet have to do it! For me it is having to endure all the WIN nonsense… seriously…

Same I’ve been quiet quitting for 20 years.

Quiet quitting remained relevant today. I am at the point where I am telling myself, what’s the point. Do enough to get by but nothing more. I shall take the time to recharge and let’s see what EM will tell us in December.

Good news!

don't sour leh, people organizing the event did their best way before the layoff news. They also hope to rank well in the coming year, be nice

Of course must enjoy… party until the last day my friends!

Do not go gentle into that good night,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

How's the running carnival guys, can people still celebrate? Could be their last event