@879x yeah this is so messed up and worrying. The last layoff, originally those guys were selected for PIP. Then they passed and were selected for layoff.
Now I am worried. Not selected for severance also bad… I would rather they let us take and go… I’ll sign up to leave.
@879j exactly my point, ironic that bad performers get big oackage bonus while good one stay and take on sh-t. How can performance be a measure to decide?
it's gonna be the same as 2021 la, after sg study, you still see so many JLB KLKK earning their 16k salary. When you see what they do can be easily taken up by younger or newer engineers. No difference this time round, you will still see the same thing.
@879d bad performance is rewarded. Lol while the good ones get to stay in this sh-t hole. If you have a godmother it’s okay. But if you don’t, you are next in the PIP list, to be stepped on.
Good luck everyone!
@879a+16zEvLP3 Mgmt already said performance is one of the 3 factors to determine if someone gets let go this time round. Please pay attention or you will be one of them.
If you fail PIP, means dismissed due to poor performance. Will pay you your 3 months AWS and f*** off.
Retrenchment package is release due to position made redundant, not performance related. Anyway, the law does not mandate companies to pay retrenchment package. Companies just need to inform MOM of such exercise and demonstrate support to help you find job. So don’t assume you will always nice package.. https://www.tal.sg/tadm/faqs/advisory/i-have-been-retrenched#
For PIPs, management holds the decision whether pass or not mah right? If failed means can get the retrenchment package or no?
how many non-MPTs vs MPTs in singapore?
If the technicians are not affected by the retrenchment exercise this time, the % of MPTs being retrenched is actually much higher.
This smells like 2021 all over again. We cut 300 positions back then which was a lot of head counts and technicians weren’t affected. It will be worse this time round and you don’t even have the tech bo-m to absorb those getting retrenched
Good luck
Okay whoever hears the package details must post here ok. I think I will be one of the first to hear cos my bosses were managing me out into PIP before the announcement. I will post when I hear.
@8785 hang in there! Severance package will be like hitting the jackpot! Pat on your back for enduring the times you didn’t believe it and yet have to do it! For me it is having to endure all the WIN nonsense… seriously…
Same I’ve been quiet quitting for 20 years.
Quiet quitting remained relevant today. I am at the point where I am telling myself, what’s the point. Do enough to get by but nothing more. I shall take the time to recharge and let’s see what EM will tell us in December.
Good news!
don't sour leh, people organizing the event did their best way before the layoff news. They also hope to rank well in the coming year, be nice
Of course must enjoy… party until the last day my friends!
Do not go gentle into that good night,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
How's the running carnival guys, can people still celebrate? Could be their last event
When things like this happened, you can easily tell who are the empty vessels sitting at that high level position. People look at the tech lead and principal to produce result but they just can't do anything and still consume resources, world class indeed
@875a
Tru tht, if thy so CRISPY then ccfu still cannot start? principals ish JLB
@874y so many overpaid people in crisp and em. If they are so good already left for better pastures. Fact is they can’t find anything better.
Imagine laying off the CRISP people right now. 3 months start up just to get kick out of the company, building something special indeed with all the crisp value
Still on the hot mic, nobody is sharing what was said. Until it is shared, else people are just stirring
It will be mix of HBF and Manufacturing
If I interpreted the news correctly, 3500 is the whole whole population of EM in SG, so let's say is indeed 15%, means is 525 people will get lay off, but here is the catch, LCM said is MPT will get affected, meaning they use the total population (MPT and nMPT) percentage to lay off the group of MPT only.
Wow smart! Don't worry guys, just keep on farming till the end, what's the worst thing could have happen? Retrench and find new job lor.
@874e no one knows now. Each function is to "design" their future org, and look at each individual's performance, skills and fit, to decide whether they stay or leave.
I'll be so happy to be told I don't perform well, and don't have the right fit or skills for future org. Just give me the package!
Are the 500 job losses from those working at HBF or it includes manufacturing as well?
Record down whatever 1-1/close door communications with your supervisors. Especially if u initiate the conversation on problems u r facing. U never know when they will use it to backstab u. Trust me, ive been through this type of backstabbing before my very own supervisor. This can serve as evidences to MOM if required. Make a note somewhere in your own hp if the quaterly feedback never happens. Protect own interest at times like this.
@8746 it’s a man’s job!
great job to those supporting china start up. thank you for setting this up.
Hot Mic was brutal lol. U guys are so done.
Exciting, gonna see LCM in jurong, she better don't use the phone while walking, safety folks need to catch and raise impact
there are people who heard it.
ask them in the next forum and see how they response.
abandoning the corporate office. if you think harder, this is the first step of divesting. no future ambitions here already
Unpopular opinion, but I believe it was nothing. I believe our local leaders are doing their best to help us and they are in not easy roles as leaders.
What was the hot mic incident after the 9pm communications session?
What was the hot mic content? Any specifics?
Lost all respect for the LCM, VP and the rest of the Grammy Award Winning Actors on the communication at 9pm.
Wonder who else heard the hot mic incident?
No official retrenchments for nmpts, so the extra headcounts will eventually go into PIP to be terminated. The PIP termination benefits is very much lesser compared to the retrenchment benefits. Just take the package better than nothing.
Doesn’t matter hbf or mfg, if you are CL26 and above but your roles are not relevant to field work… that role is probably high risk.
EM is equal opportunity employer so regardless of hbf or mfg we have equal opportunity lah
will they cut the hbf peeps or manufacturing peeeps first