that's why EM in SG has dropped in standards, no initiative, no hunger to do big things
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@891t siao. Asking for trouble. Just milk what we can and prepare for the worse.
The only way out is this, especially for the commercial folks in hbf before it's too late.
- Gather the group of people who can provide good information. Traders, ex manufacturing folks, sls and whoever
- Come out with a plan to sell sgcx manufacturing site, not just ref but scp as well
- This is a combined effort, get buy in from whoever before presenting upwards
The benefit is vast like potential pds moment, avoiding the need to come to jurong by 2027 and still being able to work at a good or better location near town. Think about it
The writings were on the wall ever since Rapid Project was announced 10 years ago. Nobody foresee it to be a competitor and took it easy. In 2020, Exxon got kicked off from Dow Jones Index is already a turning milestone. When Singapore declared Carbon tax and increase it progressively. It is already a nail in the coffin. In fact, nobody dare to say CRISP will be a success. Like aquascaping, iwagumi looks very simple and easy to maintain and operate but the truth is it takes pure dedication, passion and patience to rid of all the undesirable variables and keep it in balance.
Lol sgcx deserves this. We have leaders who are too soft and no capabilities to lead. Ang mo colonial master say what, we do what even though it means losing our job, damn loser. Now employees are so soft that they want kindness. We deserve this
To many keleng kia already use hand political best let them go for
@88yg win what bro unless u have been leeching the company for years like the useless principals you are a loser.
@88yf Either you win or you lose, there is no in between. It delights me to hear a s-b tale or two. More gossips to share indeed.
I am a current EM employee. It’s not enough that I do well, people around me must fail badly. When they do something wrong and gotten NLI/LI, it makes me sleep very well at night because I know that someone is taking NSI for the team.
Otherwise, how to do well in ranking?
@88y9 LMAO we need Singa the Kindness Lion wearing our free Mobil 1 racing polo shirt. To spread the love in SGCX.
I am a current EM staff here. Just would like to say a few words.
Most stay because of the money and to sustain our lifestyle, family and commitment. No one loves the corporate grind, PIP and the slogan to drive the workforce. What works in the US or HQ don’t work perfectly in Asian context. We are just the following what ah gong wants us to do.
Ex- employee, once u did enough, just leave here alone. There’s no need to dig further or gossip about the company status. No one wants it. No one wants to see you leave to. It just that you are a misfit in this demanding place but definitely will thrive better elsewhere. Everyone is really fighting for survival. Every single stupid or smart opportunity are given a shot just to save this site.
If you are ex employee, just be nice and kind to this company and the employee. If you are a current employee, do what you need to do and be kind to yourself and others.
Kindness is lacking in SGCX. If everyone start a little, this place will be better a little bit.
My SLS told me at the start of the year that my team is already at the end state of TMTS and so there will not be any further cuts. Is that no longer true with the most recent announcement and we have been sold a bag of untruth ?
How can there still be ang mo, kltc of btc expat if we are getting cut in December. And ang mo bosses still expecting us to focus, focus on what? Finding job more important right
campus hire with almost 3 years and more than 2 for sda, yeah you are a good engineer on paper, but you just haven't seen blood yet. Your future is still bright, but not in em. Start looking for a job now
@88q1 it doesn't matter are you campus hire or experience hire, as long as you are on Singapore payroll, you are not safe.
@88pn aww so innocent… you think if I quit now, EM will give someone else the package. cute 🥰 no wonder ex-EM
When was the last time you had given out a name card with pride? Did you manage to connect with fellow industry players through associations and webinars? Did you upgrade yourself with skills and knowledge and got certified? If you didn’t, it’s time to reflect why are you even staying.
@88q1 lol 3rd party contractor can run it at a fraction of the cost!
Skilled engineer… made me laughed so hard.
I am campus hired, with EM for 2 yrs+, SDA all above 2. Am I safe from retrenchment? How companies will run without skilled engineers?
anyone knows whats the communication to supply chain this morning?
@88pf LMAO so satki 46 YO and got F U money, you dreaming ah, low CL and low potential guy…. If so, just quit and let someone else get the package.
@88pa I’m 88n9. Retiring after this round of cut, with or without package I’m out. 46 years old and have saved my F U money. I’m low CL, low potential and already lucky to survive until now.
I don’t know what I will do after I leave EM. But one thing I will never do, is come to this layoff board and suan people who need a job.
@88n9 well… this is the hard truth. Times are bad now. EM makes you jack of many trades, which doesn’t allow you to shine when looking for a job.
Be ahead of others, start practicing your interview skills.
@88ha lol what kind of sad psycho ex-EM spend time on layoff board suaning people looking for jobs in an economic downturn. If you really doing so well as ex-EM you won’t be looking at resumes, you’ll be retired.
truth is, most people posting here are ex-EM, except the farmers. The new guys don't know how bad it was few years ago.
@88ha speaking from experience in taking a haircut in pay? I'm also ex-em, just curious if news is out. You take your own advise first id--t
@88h5 take a chill pill man, didn’t management say by Mid December? October is not over yet. You should be working! Not posting on this forum! Ex EM here btw, good luck finding jobs out there in the wild, many EM resumes are floating around, it is a buffet for employers out there right now. I can slowly pick and choose. Oh and also, prepare to take a pay cut as many cannot match your big fat pay grade!
Any update? 2 weeks already still no new news
@87z0 WTS really cannot trust friends in EM!
Anyone watched movie and know about Thanos’ Snap?
In a moment of chilling silence, Thanos raised his hand and snapped his fingers.
Half of all life—across planets, species, and civilizations—disintegrated into dust. Heroes, innocents, and tyrants alike vanished. The universe fell into mourning.
Thanos retreated to a quiet planet, watching the sunrise, believing he had saved existence.
@889p getting id--ts to run the plant. LOL. This will drive us to the abyss. So funny thinking about it…
Most likely, management will be bumped back to a technical role and you will be NSI'd as a technical employee. You have to remember that "management" was initially hired as a technical employee.
@889f agreed! They can come to work everyday and sing WAEM! Cheering, patting each other on the back and compliment each other with heart warming words.
just shift them to a new function, we can call it retirement home where they can all display their high level behavior. They can do whatever, just don't waste my time entertaining them. The ES principals are just for show who won't even appear physically to help to cover base engineers on a day to day basis, very unlike the principals from technical
Honestly, they really need to shave the number of so called "supervisory" lead, complex, principals, SLS. who are really contributing, making decisions?? How many of these so called high level folks earning big bucks are making real engineering decisions and contributing. Most of just asking to follow GPs. What's the point of having them then? There's no point moving them to technical position as well, they are not competent to give technical advices and solutions. It will just be shifting the problem and not solving the real issue.
It is time to start tracking the folks that go for long lunches, hang out at ya kun, killiney… all these jlb… saving the work until after office hours to show how hard working they are!
@8888 u should see the ridiculous number of overpaid principals in ES. All don’t do anything yapping around. Farm for at least 10 years each of them.
Mobil Oil was top heavy with management in circa 1990. During the Mobil Oil global reorganizations in the 1990's, the number of management chairs was reduced by 50%. Many managers did not lose their job, they were just bumped back to the technical ranks.
In Mobil Oil you could retire at age 50 with full pension. Some managers opted for retirement after age 50 instead of being reassigned to a non-management role for the rest of their career in Mobil Oil.
There is a simple solution to our headcount problem. Just drop the retirement age to 50 with 0 years of service to receive 100% of your pension and monitor the uptick in retirement announcements.
Any function received communication yet?
There are too many leads and many supervisors. Just feed people the truth, you can't offer everyone a career growth upwards. now it's just too top heavy which is not efficient at all, and expensive.