Pushed back and asked to retire....
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Is G5K pushing back?
Good luck to those not planning their exit.
Too late for an exit. Just have to hang on. The job market is full of EM resumes and yet so many remain shows you how dire the situation is.
Bunch of us will get burnt by this study. House is on fire.
Need to hurry think of the next high profile senior KOs to write nice words for me, hope they can save my job. Scratch your back, you scratch mine. Wasting each other time and resources, few thousands of us spending two hours each, back and forth? How much time wasted for whole corporation??
What are the rumored numbers for Singapore study? 2000? 3000? Surely more than the US for sure. After all, Singapore office is just a colony.
we operations sent union talk to gsk for bonus matter, no good news but only learn that he retiring with lots of $...sad
@1kaay+16zEvLP3 I don’t think that GSK is pushing back, if at all! He will happily retire with millions in savings, EM stocks and directorship fees!
The next wave of PIP and PIL for NSIs will certainly be there in 3Q2021.
But way before that, expect the Singapore country study to have completed and we shall see the decimating impacts of HW3 and TMTS hit first.
No one in Singapore pushing back except for GSK? Needs to band together in order to be stronger - otherwise, you just get bullied into submission. Something needs to get done before another round of NSI hit us.
Please include all the staff development managers in Emit.
If you work long enough and you should know these highly paid Mr/Ms NATO (No Action Talk Only) DO NOT deserve to be paid so high; These included SLS and Lead positions.
Yes, Singapore employees (with CPF and the 3-mth AWS) is high cost ... only next to Japan, in AP.
A mid-career executive’s salary, including EM stock options will be hovering near SGD450K+ pa.
A senior DH’s salary will touch SGD300K+ pa ... all on a 15-mth basis.
Given a strong SGD, and converting that to USD, Euros, or worse AUD, plus their higher taxation there, makes a Singaporean managerial-MPT look relatively well-remunerated on a net income basis!
Singaporeans are docile and will just quietly leave or do the NSI. No one is going to pursue a class action law suit against Singapore EM.
So, just take the 8% NSI signed sealed and delivered from Australia in 2021. Remember what management said - the door is always open if you are not happy. Stop disturbing the masters of the universe in Houston and Dallas and go back to work in the fields you peasants.
in sg em there is no transparency, lousy public communication, union not strong. now we employees gets affected.
Back to NMPT comments from below,
I beg to differ. Why technicians don’t deserve PIP/PIL.
It’s true you all put in blood/sweat/tears with inherent work hazard. That’s why you guys are getting paid better than other diploma level jobs.
Secondly, do you even know how many incidents or losses Exxon has occurred due to COOs ( operator errors ). From my experience. I have encountered many technicians, most of them execute tasks without thinking. Therefore causing incidents etc. which can be easily prevented.
So shouldn’t PIP/PIL serve as a wake up call for y’all ? To not be complacent and ignorant.
just like some ssoc people who thought that they are on the way to the top. buy BMW the moment he became RC. jokes
@1jwdq+16zEvLP3 To be more specific, not just any car - but luxury brands like Mercedes Benz, BMW, Audi, Jaguar. Many own more than 1 car.
Not just any private property, but a FH landed house (semi-D, or bungalow) in prime D10.
And all cash-rich!
Even NMPT FT earn here and convert money into their currency, built big houses, buy land. When they go back, king of the village
not only cars, land and houses too, surprise yourself. management are given wayyyy too much in sg sending emails and meetings. Remove one and may replace with some units shift team running and going. Sg is the safest place in the world right now, thanks the gov, but we want fair treatment, please don't cut bottom to reward the top.
HR is here to serve the senior leadership and not the peasants. Technicians were very well paid for their blood sweat and tears. Just look at the nice cars at the manufacturing sites in Singapore. You live by the sword, you die by the sword.
So noble.. Blood, sweat and tears. No one forced u to be a technician.
All above board here. No action taken. So complaints already looked into by authorities. Thank you.
This PIP is totally b—s—. Technically they should layoff all the SLS,LPS advisors and 80% FLS. Even NMPTs are getting this PIP. Absolutely atrocious. Working level technician are sacrificng their sweat and tears for the company yet they choose to PIP the NMPTs. HR SHOULD LOOK INTO THE UPPER MANAGEMENT FIRST. Last but not least,F*** exxonmobil.
Many of the SG jobs are being posted in KL, which makes much more sense. KL is a lot cheaper, and they are equally capable.
Thanks SG for your sacrifices. Can't wait for you guys to provude us with opportunities.
- BTC
Still better than #weareexxonmobile
@1irgz+16zEvLP3 We are all taught to spot phishing e-mails - and that ought to include postings in layoff.com too!
You are definitely a troll, by signing off as #weareexxommobil!!!! We did notice the double mm ;)
Don’t compare us to Shell. We are ExxonMobil. We hire the best and the brightest even in Singapore; so we can compete to win and there’s no need to PIP / PIL so many employees compared to Shell, since we can operate better. Operational excellence is the sharpest tool in our toolkit!
#weareexxommobil!!!!
@1ifsh+16zEvLP3 Yes, that’s a nation’s question that Singapore has to answer - cos, in the longer term, when we ourselves become too expensive, investors and industries will pull out en masse.
They will prefer to shift their manufacturing elsewhere, to keep their bottom line.
Singapore, as a nation, needs to reinvent ourselves.
We do not have natural resources, and we are too costly to employ. Our cost of energy is but one of the highest in the world!
Shell has done it in a very respectable way today and all of us witnessed on news. In EM we can only admire how impressive their comms and union are doing. What is happening to our public communication department, do we even have a real one? or still hide and seek with information. Come on...time to do the right thing.
@1ilfy+16zEvLP3 Will you and everyone of us take a 30-50% paycut for Singapore (any industry - and especially in Pet Refining and PetroChem) to remain competitive and keep our invested companies above water?
The competing NOCs (think China and India) are coming on very strongly with mega large and more efficient new investments, at the lowest of operating costs.
How do we in Singapore (regardless of Shell, EM, BASF, DuPont, Dow Chemical, Eastman, PCS, whatever), compete to win - when WE OURSELVES are so costly to employ?
Im already attending interviews and got a couple of offers. Good luck to all staying, by the time EM lay SG employees off, openings will be mostly filled by other applicants.
Units can still be operated if we are cheaper. Pretty sure most of us agree.
Wow! It’s like out of every 5 workers in Shell Bukom complex, 2 will be laid off!
I wonder how many in EM F&L and Chemical manufacturing complex will get the pink slip?
If like Shell Bukom, you just need to take a look at your colleagues around you ... for every 10 of your buddies, 4 will need to pack up and go. So sad .
Shell to halve its 500KBD production and layoff 500 of its 1,300 staff in Bukom, SINGAPORE.
https://www.google.com.sg/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKBN27Q16H
Heard NSI remains at 8%.
Big number released at bukom announced today. Good luck to our folks at Jurong island/Pioneer
Experienced hired, PIL’ed and left for good.
Key takeaways from this toxic workplace, 97% managers/ supervisors not sincere and not qualified to lead.
Unpleasant working experience in my years of career to witness such doomed working environment, a place you will never grow your career apart from excel in boo$licking in order to sustain your livelihood here.
HR in this company is the worst I have to deal with.
A failed company which is not able to counter the headwinds and deserted its workforce in crisis.
MOM is watching this closely and more updates coming soon!
What’s the NSI for Singapore next year? Any changes or any rumors heard?
totally agree. 3 of them are part of management, LPS advisors (upcoming), tech SLS already management and RL, no idea what is this role doing but sticking very closely to the BTL and making irrelevant comments because she does not have any idea what other crafts do. And since they are part of management, they ownself check ownself by justifying themselves as needed while the working level can be PIP'ed.
Another role that is redundant is the cyber security advisor. Not even from EMIT or computer science background.
EM is the only company that retrench the working level and protect management.