Karen did say that the employees are “amazingly talent”..., so not sure where the 8% NSI come from?
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Booted out of Dow and never ending quarter losses. Best gifts in return?
Did any DH/Manager given NSI or PIP? Answer should be No.
Then NSI is a gift to lower class employee (FLS and Technician)
"NSI is a gift" - Karen
EMCC President did mention that she likes the new Performance Assessment as it truly helps to improve the performance and NSI is a good process to help.
Too bad the economy is not doing well, otherwise - it will be nice to show the company that it’s not the only employer around, using a demoralizing and dehumanizing process to underplay the efforts of employees. Kind of s—s to have such management.
Management and rep trying hard to defend. Leaders being paid should be calm with maturity during tough times and should not be wasting time online here...
@1npqn+16zEvLP3
Your predicament (if that happens) is like a lamb that’s led to the slaughter! Either you didn’t even have a contingency plan, or have been totally nonchalant of the impending “devastation” that WILL come to our jobs, managing emotional trauma and our family’s very livelihood!!!
You may have a house now (mortgaged, I presume), a decent car, school-going children with great tertiary aspirations, etc. But ... the first two could just turn to vaporware and you could be renting a tiny flat from the HDB (for the Low income), to make ends meet with your savings only, or whatever that’s left.
Such is the sad state, when the whole nation, no, the world, go into a period of protracted recession, massive unemployment and hyperinflation (driven more so by the growing scarcity of food supply - quite unlike the typical financial crises).
@1npqn+16zEvLP3 Then s— thumb la lol. Good luck paying off your car loans and mortgage.
@1nhsg+16zEvLP3 You also got go for interview meh? If not, why so confident of not losing job? You are management issit?
Which business team/unit is the most toxic now?
@1npby+16zEvLP3 Because management holds the ship together. Otherwise if we all run around like headless chicken, with no direction, we will all sink!
Blame yourself for not taking action? So many of my friends are attending interviews now lol.
If kenna Involuntary after next layoff announcement (soon), or likely NSI by 2021 .. and cannot get another job again (say, worsening COVID-19 spread worldwide), impacting businesses, jobs / hiring food supply, savings, .. then how?
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Of course, PIP does give an NSI truly, “another chance”!
In the eyes of the potential new employer, a person who had taken the PIL option will be deemed to have been sacked. Low points there! Unlikely to be re-employed.
However, a person who had opted for PIP, can still stand a chance of passing it - even though he may be the first group that will be offered to opt for “voluntary” dismissal, when the country-study is completed. Leaving voluntary (i.e., a resignation) will be more accepted in the job after-market.
Don’t you agree?
@1npby+16zEvLP3 they are employees too? I know a number that are preparing for their contingency plan if they were asked to go. Do not that take it to heart.. they are employees too, playing the ranking game just like you and me. If EM falls.. we will just move on to anther.. no big deal..
Just why is our management not taking pay cut?? oh yes, over-leveraged during good times and individual losses from plunge in em stocks. We employees now helping to pay for their losses, no bonus and no increment... ridiculous.
An “incompetent” leader by definition is someone whose action destroys camaraderie, instill gossip, encourage dishonesty, and prevent people from speaking freely. ... “Incompetent” leaders tend to use their own weapons to get noticed and promoted. From all the past comments listed, the description is a perfect fit EM Singapore leaders.
@1ncpy+16zEvLP3 try go interview g$k how it feels getting the best deal for the exit and leaving ops tech bonus unresolve. Those left may not be well compensated. Ops tech got short changed. PIP warriors stayed behind deserve huge respect choosing to climb the steepest mountain, despite an exit option. Please show respect for the unsung warriors.
The UK is poised to bring forward its ban on new fossil fuel vehicles from 2040 to 2030 to help speed up the rollout of electric vehicles across British roads. Game over for Dinosaurus technology...
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I did hear similar comment from my supervisor: PIP is to help employees to give them another chance to be more successful elsewhere.
I was literally rolling my eyes when they said this. Guess that's how HR taught the supervisors on PIP communication effectiveness ...
Other MNC Senior executives are taking pay cuts in an attempt to show solidarity with their employees who are being downsized in unprecedented numbers. And while forgoing a few high-end salaries may be immaterial to the bottom line, companies whose leaders don’t follow suit face reputational risks for years to come.
Have all the PIP employee kicked by the company now? Just curious about why people chosen PIP, put themselves into hell and got kicked at the end.
We can see clearly how useless the management in singalore, they are totaly loss. Safety incidents on the rise, and employee trust in management drop to the bottom. Real leadership is tested at time like this, do something practical, lead by example, dont just talk useless things like stay focus, do your lpsa, and load your employee with tons of unproduvtive works. Lead by example by taking pay cut, play more attention to employee feeling, and dont hold useless communication wasting everybody time.
@1mhxq+16zEvLP3 I did not see it. Not in Chemical. Can you share it here?
Just wait until the next layoff wave hits Singapore. More jobs will be let go! :)
I did catch that. It's hilarious, even the PIP process is distorted. Yes indeed, its a gift to the Company (aka Management). Soon EM will be bled dry by them, manufacturing sites should become less efficient with majority of compensation given to the management/overpaid FLS.
Why would any talent join/stay in a place with such a culture?
"Gift" to the company according to chemical? wow means we loyal employees are not needed anymore. Thanks for sharing here @1mhxq+16zEvLP3. We employees are not important to EM anymore...
did anyone catch the chemicals communication? they did mention that PIP is a gift for the company. it is clear now.
Which part of EMRE?
EMRE and Reliability are a waste of space and $$$
@1kvbx+16zEvLP3 No doubt. Too many Staff Development Managers, supervisors & advisors around
Management has totally no value outside of EM and probably no company can match their pay for the things they do. EM has become absolutely toxic for getting rid of engineers and technicians (whom are the ones doing real work). Watch out for more reliability events coming up and lets see if KLTC can respond to those.
If anyone deserves to be laid off, it should be the managers. Why are they paid so much to ask questions and churn work? It is sad to see the working level getting laid off when they are the ones that truly add value to the business.
Instead of complaining here and seeking MoM’s attention (which will never happen, by the way), I think we’d be better off to take stock of our existing savings and shave off all liabilities - like the mortgage, car loan, credit cards, personal loans, etc.
Cos if you do lose your job, it will be helluva change that you need to make to your lifestyle, spends and money drain.
Question for all: If you cannot get another job (not to mention an equal-paying one, at that), can your savings last you for a reasonable period of time?
How about the family / children (tuition, expenses and all)?
Sell house / downgrade, sell car, sell ..... and then what?
senior management sending people to visit this forum. Is our management mentally so weak and insecure? May be is time to grow up.
Senior management has confirmed that they like NSI - and frankly, there hasn’t been much of a backlash in any kind. So good night and good luck my friends.
Winning through WIN. :)
WIN is a joke for Singapore.. lol.. but I usually get my free meals there! Great times!
Definitely not. The current environment and situation makes things so shady. Some SLSs have favoritism towards female employees and here we are empowering them through WINS which have no other value except for free lunches. Look at how many female SLSs in the refinery past few years and look at how we are doing now.
I'm not the only one who thinks the workplace is getting more toxic, more people blaming others to save their own back right?