Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

$1.5B/year Spent on Consultants

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**Wells Fargo is cutting back on consultants as its annual outlay on firms including McKinsey and PwC reached $1bn-$1.5bn **


Wells Fargo is targeting dramatic cuts to its spending on consultants after an internal backlash against the bank’s outlay on firms including McKinsey, PwC and Oliver Wyman, which has reached $1bn-$1.5bn a year.

The savings form a crucial part of new efficiency plans to be unveiled by chief executive Charlie Scharf and will also include thousands of job cuts among Wells’ 266,000-strong global workforce, said people familiar with the matter.

Mr Scharf, the former BNY Mellon boss appointed late last year to lead a recovery at the US’s third-largest bank, hinted at frustration with its reliance on third parties on the bank’s second-quarter earnings call last month. He described the spend as “extraordinary”. 

“The things that we rely on outside people to do is beyond anything that I've ever seen,” he said, as the bank promised to cut as much as $10bn from its annual cost base after swinging to its first quarterly loss in a decade. 

Wells became over-reliant on consultants as it struggled to deal with the fallout of a 2016 mis-selling scandal that cost the bank more than $3bn in penalties and forced radical improvements to its compliance procedures, said one of the people familiar with management’s thinking. 

“Spending on consultants is off the charts,” said another person. “You lose track of all of them really. It is comical.”

The consultant spend is mostly included in the bank’s “other professional services” expenses, which were $758m in the second quarter. As well as the absolute cost, there were concerns that Wells’ excessive use of consultants meant key skills were not built up internally and there was a lack of “accountability” for outsourced projects. 

Wells’ engagement with the Federal Reserve on restrictions imposed in the aftermath of the mis-selling scandal was cited as one of the consultancy-led projects that attracted internal backlash. 

Wells has been operating under a string of “consent orders” from US regulators since 2018, which required it to fix various risk management and compliance processes so that restrictions including an asset cap could be lifted.

The bank originally hired consultancy McKinsey and an external law firm to oversee its efforts to observe the compliance and redress measures demanded by the Fed and other regulators. It later switched to Big Four accountancy firm PwC and a new set of lawyers, before adding Oliver Wyman in its most recent attempt to address regulators’ issues.

While the bank’s new management team was very focused on cutting consultancy costs, the process would have to be managed carefully so as not to jeopardise their overriding objective of resolving Wells’ compliance issues, people familiar with the situation said. 

Oliver Wyman has also been contracted for another reorganisation of the bank’s chief risk office — dubbed “operational excellence” internally — which will install dedicated chief risk officers in each of its key divisions. The CROs will remain part of the risk functions, rather than becoming part of the operating divisions, but the new structure marks a partial row back of Mr Scharf’s earlier ambition to have risk management fully centralised.

Before Oliver Wyman, consultancy Promontory Financial Group was “effectively running compliance” under former chief risk officer Mike Loughlin and was paid more than $1m a month. Promontory’s contract was not renewed in 2018 after it failed to improve controls and oversight was taken in-house.

Separately, Accenture has been hired to work on several projects, including Wells’ “business process mapping”. The bank also works with Deloitte and EY.

Wells Fargo, PwC, Accenture and Oliver Wyman all declined to comment. McKinsey did not immediately return a request for comment.

SOURCE: https://www.ft.com/content/abe2ebc2-8f7d-45c7-964e-678b48f9baed

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Post ID: @OP+16itES7T

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There’s a word for that. It’s called “cronyism”.

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Post ID: @5qem+16itES7T

The consulting companies whine and dine senior management to get the gig them soak them for what they are wroth. Usually the contracts are two years guaranteed up front and you can't get out of it except at enormous cost. A lot of times those senior managers once worked for those companies. I have seen it at many companies. Another type of nepotism (without actually being a relative, except in some cases) that we see from these folks.

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Post ID: @5nbf+16itES7T

open secret is managers gets perks from consultants ,so they give contract to third party

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Post ID: @4oxa+16itES7T

What hasn’t been discussed is who actually hired these people. The company did not - senior leaders that are either OC members or their directs did. Really tired of hearing how all of us do a poor job of managing expenses .... sorry but very small group of senior leaders own this

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Post ID: @3zlw+16itES7T

It's about damn time. Maybe they will actually listen to internal people vs over priced consultants that more often than not are of little use. McKinsey, EY, Cap gem, Accenture, Deloitte and a bunch of other companies you've probably never heard of all charge an absurd amount of money. I've seen a bunch of different situations where they'll bring in a consulting firm for one piece (ok, fine in some cases), then use them for staff augmentation (at absurd billing rates and an army of people) and still have garbage outcomes.

It's a common thing to do – it isn't just wells. All too often management won't listen to its own people. If you hire the right people and they have a track record of execution, you should listen to them. As the saying goes– consultants are like Sea Gulls. They come in, drop a bunch of sht, then fly away leaving you covered in sht.

I won't even get into how often things become a cluster flock b/c one group or another forces their way which is the absolute worst thing to do.

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Post ID: @2kpp+16itES7T

If you are a contractor, you're screwed. Hope you've enjoyed the perpetual 18/6 shift over the years. You come in useless and leave incompetence in your wake. It's time to pay the piper "consultant", the WF teet is no longer available for you. You're going to find that every other company actually looks for people that think for themselves, your skills at hiding behind the WF process will expose you, and if you live in SF area...move or consider a career in removal or human excrement...wait maybe there is a place for you here after all...

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Post ID: @1nwc+16itES7T

Isn't it the Wells Fargo way to outsource decision making to others to either 1) avoid culpability for poor outcomes or 2) claim victory on the off chance the consulting engagement results in a successful outcome? At the same time both collecting a fat check while writing another fat one to the consulting agency!

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Post ID: @1uli+16itES7T

Tons of consultants in Saul's organization for who knows why. I have two on my team who do little more than attend meetings and do my boss's "gopher" work putting together information requests and powerpoint decks.

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Post ID: @euw+16itES7T

I’m so glad it seems they’re finally paying attention to the ridiculous amount we spend on consultants - upwards of $500/hr in many cases. And I’ve worked with a lot in corporate risk and technology who do nothing but sit in meetings and Create PowerPoint presentations - not adding value at $500/hr pp. if we need to cut it should certainly be in that space.

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Post ID: @vol+16itES7T

Wells does indeed hire an incredible amount of outside consultants. The bank is run like a consulting firm as opposed to a bank, one of the many reasons we are in trouble today.

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Post ID: @sup+16itES7T

Will this reduction result in more FTEs in, say WFT/EIT? That group has historically been overly reliant on contractors, IMO.

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Post ID: @mkd+16itES7T

When prior leadership only promoted their inner circle and cronies, this is what happens. They hired TP consultants to do work that internal peeps could not. Drain the swamp!

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Post ID: @zjc+16itES7T

This makes me happy. During Consent Order my floor was literally taken over by consultants who were 12 years old and nodded their heads and sat in conference rooms and looked adoringly at leaders. I would sit and contemplate how much the power point decks they created cost.

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Post ID: @whr+16itES7T

I have seen a handful of legit consultants come through over the years, and every single time their hard work and expertise failed because of a stubborn management team that saw their presence as a threat to their own power and intelligence. They basically thought their way already worked (poorly) so why go through the trouble of fixing it. Or they didn’t like that the consultants solution wasn’t something that could be implemented and show results in the span of a week. But more than anything, ego. So they would humor the consultants for a handful of months, and shortly after they left would transition back to the old way they knew.

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Post ID: @jfe+16itES7T

Any idea how these cuts will impact individual contractors from staffing firms (versus SOW folks from the high end shops)?

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Post ID: @dys+16itES7T

Accenture ripped off JPMC for years and I bet money I don't have they are doing the same to WF. It was amazing how many days it took the team offshore to do something that should take 1 or 2 hours.

I have always been amazed how technology management wants to involve a third party instead of using their own people. Just freaking amazing.

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Post ID: @lre+16itES7T

And big group of contractors who either hang out in the lunch room together or on the phone FaceTime in the hallway (and sometimes even in the bathroom) 24/7. Their managers are usually remote and they have no ideas sneaky contractors are ripping off Wells like there is no tomorrow

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Post ID: @zne+16itES7T

Interesting, BCG wasn’t mentioned. WF has written them some pretty big checks for pretty decks and half done work that should have been done by employees in the first place.

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Post ID: @eqr+16itES7T

Consulting firms live off the combination of incompetent / lazy client personnel with deep pockets. I used to be in one of the Big firms mentioned by OP and saw millions of dollars on reoccurring revenue being generated by finding work to
be done for id–ts with a checkbook. You would literally put a recent college grad dressed up nicely on a project and bill 200 dollars an hour to do the client’s job for them. It looks like the party is over at this point. ORM is a classical example of “consulting paradise” at WF with projects being sponsored by WF personnel who has no clue of the subject matter involved but still could write a sizeable check. It will colapse as soon as consulting firms stop being used.

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Post ID: @bik+16itES7T

Good on Charlie. These management consultants thrive on partially solved problems to drive more engagements.

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Post ID: @kqd+16itES7T

folks keep talking about McK but it's Accenture who benefits the most

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