Does anyone know quality assurance testers being let go? Saw on the news the bank will layoff thousands of employees which mostly include tech and retail and was wondering if anyone knows something. Thanks
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@1nfu+16K8dTd4 "The customers will find the rest of the bugs when it hits production."
So much for managing reputational risk eh?
There is one that should be laid off. She takes three months of stress leave every year and sits there constantly gossiping about everyone - instead of testing. They keep her though and then promote her to a senior analyst. You want to talk about dead weight...
That’s a great reputation and doing what’s right for the customer. This place is circling the drain faster with the new management.
There is no need for QA or code testing anymore. Dev will do unit tests. The customers will find the rest of the bugs when it hits production.
Am a manual tester and now being trained for automation and wrote some automation scripts and improving but this upcoming massive layoffs scare me
I am guessing you are a Business Analyst.
What you do at wf is you take the specifications from the customers and you bring them down to the software engineers? What exactly do you do here at wf? I deal with the customers so the engineers don’t have to. I have people skills!
All application level test will move towards automation, so yes, unit testing and integrated automated test suites, to an extent anyway. That is what CI/CD is all about. Separating Dev and QA is highly overrated. That type of thinking is 20yrs old....
LOL @unit testing. All I see is code tossed over the wall that's riddled with defects!
First, developers already test their own code, it’s called unit testing. But there is a separate role on the team to write code that will run test scripts, usually they are called test automation engineers. Running these can be done in a fraction of the time, and provide output that more consistently identifies defects.
There is still a need for people QA testers, because there are still projects that involve 20 or 30 applications teams where trying to automate testing would be more time consuming that doing it manually. I hope they identify the best people to keep onshore, QA tester quality is highly variable.
@zen+16K8dTd4 you obviously don't work here. They already laid off ftes.
@crl+16K8dTd4 based on past experience with WF, I will assume you are a software development manager.
I just need two yrs before I can retire and hope I can stay as manual tester before they lay us off
What is Agile? An internal project name? thanks
After the contractors are all gone, which is soon. They will then start laying off FTEs.
If developers QA their own code there will be no quality or assurance. That’s why QA was created to begin with, to prevent this.
I know, I use to write requirements, code and test everything in every project I did. Yeah, we used to do that once upon a time. Agile indeed.
How soon will they layoff QA then? Have they built the resources and tools to replace humans doing testing? Will QA be in the first wave of layoffs in 2020?
I think there were talks to eliminate the Qa position in the future. Only Automation engineers who can write and run automation scripts will be left for now until Dev will do both Dev and QA their own code.
It’s all about automation testing. Developers writing code to run tests instead of people performing tests manually. How it impacts QA will depend on the specific application as well as how many projects will require end to end testing where automation testing can’t be done.
Yes, since going Agile they will lay off anyone duplicating efforts. They don't need teams of QA anymore, just one person on multiple projects. It is a streamlining process. No more hours and hours of meetings, you will do the testing with your Agile group and give immediate feedback. First to go are QA managers.