Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

14 Day Exit Window?

Surplus notice was just cut from 60 days to 14.

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Post ID: @OP+15fiXqEl

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Now what are you hearing?

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Post ID: @qngq+15fiXqEl

"Additionally, the WARN Act requires employers to give notice of any mass layoff, that does not result from a plant closing but will result in an employment loss of 500 or more employees during any 30-day period. The Act also covers employment loss for 50-499 employees if they make up at least 33 percent of the employer's active workforce."

That goes by site, not companywide. Will all the buildings across all the states it would seem that WARN does not apply. Unless it is at least 33%, so no 40% this round but could happen by the end of the year. Also if there is outsourcing WARN don't apply. In addition severance would cover penalties if there was a violation.

AT&T HR probably has a team of legal people look at everything to cover them.

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Post ID: @1awb+15fiXqEl

People have been warned on town halls since the start of the year that cuts were coming. Stanky is on record in public interviews that this was coming. Now the 14 days is something new, but everyone should have had an updated resume by now.

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Post ID: @1kfn+15fiXqEl

Jesus... "For management surpluses, we will institute a new 14-day exit window in most cases because there will be a limited number of alternative internal roles. "
Why not state exactly what you're talking about OP? Not that anyone with any semblance of a cortex takes at face value any of the B$ constantly being posted on this aggravating site.

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Post ID: @1hbv+15fiXqEl

It’s about letting as many people go for as little money as possible.

Here’s some quick math:
If the average employee makes $60k, and there are 10,000 people let go, that’s $75 million in savings going from 60 to 14 days.

Of course if the employee makes more or more are let go then it just goes up from there.

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Post ID: @1rgp+15fiXqEl

For employees in work sites where there are less than 50 employees let go in that work site, the WARN Act does not apply.

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Post ID: @1gsm+15fiXqEl

It's July 1st, not July 31st, so that's not 60 days. They're invoking WARN's 14-day exception for natural disasters.

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Post ID: @mul+15fiXqEl

They're talking about an email McElfresh sent out today.

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Post ID: @qac+15fiXqEl

July 31 termination doesn't violate the WARN Act if they file their WARN paperwork today, as they likely did.

It takes a few days for a given WARN notice to post.

Keep an eye out for your local state's WARN site to post city-level layoff numbers for AT&T.

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Post ID: @aur+15fiXqEl

Where did this come from? Is it posted?

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Post ID: @pzt+15fiXqEl

“It is the company’s policy that employment is at-will. This means that if you accept this offer of employment either management or you may terminate your employment for any reason at any time, with or without notice, and with or without cause.”

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Post ID: @qou+15fiXqEl

StanKey snakey is and always was cruella! Remember the local network that failed in NJ? He was responsible and wanted to wipe our footprint and campuses in NJ. All he hoped for aka is to sit on the top of the company which is now fulfilled. A very miserable person who just wants his promised bonus! A horrible person and Nowhere like Randall to lead AT&T!

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Post ID: @aef+15fiXqEl

How does this NOT violate the WARN Act?

They were talking about BILLIONS in cuts BEFORE COVID!?

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Post ID: @rau+15fiXqEl

Why is anyone surprised

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Post ID: @liu+15fiXqEl

The 14 exit is a d-ck move by Stankey. He's claiming covid as a unforeseeable business impact when they were going to do this anyway.

And the reason it's a d-ck move is a lot of people would like the extra 2 months pay to feed kids and pay mortgages, maybe everyone hasn't been here forever and won't get much severance.

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Post ID: @rpa+15fiXqEl

From the U.S. Department of Labor website regarding the WARN act:

"WARN makes certain exceptions to the requirements when layoffs occur due to unforeseeable business circumstances, faltering companies, and natural disasters."

Guess how Stankey is getting out of 60 days notice?

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Post ID: @yiw+15fiXqEl

If you get tapped, why would you want to stay an additional 60 days? If you’re Management you’re told to update your resume and bid on jobs in career path. It’s a bogus system. The job postings have mostly been earmarked for an already selected candidate. If the requisite is truly open, it’s job nobody wants in another city. A Manager in a phone store that has unhappy direct reports and unrealistic monthly targets. The environment you are soon to leave treats you like a leper or invisible. All conversations stop. Nobody knows what to say but are glad you were selected and not them. You’re a dead man walking. Two weeks until departure, sixty days from severance, fourteen days from unemployment. To choose to leave in two weeks is the choice to make.

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Post ID: @jzp+15fiXqEl

I wouldn't have an issue with it if the economy was in better shape. With the pandemic and civil unrest I don't see many businesses hiring in the near term.

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Post ID: @vjy+15fiXqEl

A betrayal. That’s 6 weeks of your higher salary (than unemployment) that you just lost. He is a disingenuous snake, putting people out there early in a pandemic and with the unemployment rate so high. Scum.

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Post ID: @naz+15fiXqEl

@pqr+15fiXqEl I agree with you. I used to think the 60 days was a generous move, but I know only one employee who got the 60 days and actually found an internal alternative (and that was in the last week before termination). Everyone else put out feelers, asked around, kept ears to the ground, called in favors from directors in other orgs, and still turned in the badge after 60 days.

It does effectively slice off 2.5 months from the six month severance, so good job on "cost savings". After all, we will soon have a retired CEO pulling down $274,000 a month, for life.

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Post ID: @odh+15fiXqEl

yeah what difference does it make 6 months 2 weeks - there are no jobs or why move to another job and just rinse and repeat in a few months. why prolong the agony. what a waste of a life.

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Post ID: @fnd+15fiXqEl

Most states only require 2 weeks and that can be fulfilled by the severance, meaning they can walk you out the same day they tell you.

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Post ID: @nzx+15fiXqEl

I think states require 60 days notice???

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Post ID: @gcq+15fiXqEl

Got to get people off payroll before they accumulate more PTO. Why keep people lingering around.

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Post ID: @vzw+15fiXqEl

I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing. Actually kind of refreshing to see them acknowledge that there are no internal jobs to apply to, as there haven't been for the last several years.

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