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Elimination of HRA 2020 Poll

Elimination of HRA for all eligible employees on the payroll after 1-1-2021 was recently announced.

I thought it would be useful information for everyone to this latest reduction in benefits to find out the current thinking of fellow employees eligible for the M75 HRA.

  • Click the UP arrow if you will likely decide to stay with AT&T and that while the elimination of the HRA may be highly undesirable, factors other than the HRA such as salary, benefits etc. are more important. In other words it will not influence your career plans and that you will most likely not leave AT&T or actively seek another job at a different company.
  • Click the DOWN arrow if you plan to leave AT&T before year end or will actively seek another job at a different company in order to keep the HRA benefit.

So that the poll is relevant please only M 75 employees only.

I know no way to tell but I have worked at T for almost 30 years - I'm not a company troll.

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Post ID: @OP+12SoEm9C

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What is the likelihood AT&T will grandfather HRA after 2023 for employees who retired prior to 1/1/2021?

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Post ID: @Jrcq+12SoEm9C

Never mind, after calling the benefits service center and rereading the 12-18-19 retirement update sent out by att benefits, it doesn’t affect medical coverage prior to qualifying to Medicare. False alarm for me. Though 20 years of the subsidy is $54k or 84k with a dependent, if it’s remains in effect through that time for what that’s worth.

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Post ID: @Iter+12SoEm9C

Ok, I’m confused, I understand about the HRA going away, and it amounts to 2700 plus 1500 for dependent, used for Medicare b supplementals. But this seems to effect people like myself who are now rule of 75 eligible, and currently age 55, who may take early retirement, the pre Medicare company contribution for me and my dependent is approximately $1500 a month, which seems to be also going away. That’s 18k a year that seems to be going away which is quite a bit more than a measly 2500 a year. I’m 10 years out from Medicare, so the math makes leaving a no brainer if I’m losing the 18k a year after this year. Am I understanding that right? If you go on the company’s HROneStop, page, open benefits center, go to life changes at top of page, click on “prepare for retirement“, then “make your choices” then put in a date this year (1st of month) then accept , it shows you your portion of healthcare and what the company gives you per month. Click on the hyperlink below your portion of medical coverage and it breaks it down, showing additional plans and costs. It clearly shows me and my spouse receiving over $1500 a month ($18k a year) coming from the company, and my Out of pocket portion being a bit over $600 a month (Kaiser). if you put in a date in 2021, it doesn’t show show or allow any calculation, which seems to confirm I will lose it after 12-31-2020. Is this correct? Am I reading that wrong?

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Post ID: @Ijmw+12SoEm9C

Has anyone heard that only certain management employees were notified of this change? L-B employees did receive the notice, but L-T employees did not. Same title, same age, same service, same area manager work group.

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Post ID: @8uuk+12SoEm9C

We are talking about only $2700 a year, hardly worth quitting your job. Also, it’s not a convenient to use debit card. You have to fill out and submit paperwork for receipts you collect all year. I just finished doing 2019 submission for reimbursement and it was 62 pages of $5copay, $5copay, $10copay, $20pr-scrip-ion, etc. etc, each listed separately to add up to the $2700 max. What a pain, It almost wasn’t worth the time it took me to prepare it.

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Post ID: @2wys+12SoEm9C

Is the HRA only for bargained employees.

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Post ID: @2ocf+12SoEm9C

"The Fed is already talking about dropping rates at least a couple times in 2020. Some even suggest negative interest rates at some point. If that happens those taking the Lump sum AFTER Jan 1 2021 would get a big bump in the payout. So you loose either way but the waiting and getting a much larger Lump sum could make up for the loss of HRA."

That "Retirement Lump sum" is not a guarantee. According to AT&T.....there is no law that says they have to pay any Retirement Pension. Employees did not contribute to the Pension, it is all company monies.

Not my saying.....Only telling you what has been read.

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Post ID: @2dge+12SoEm9C

Absolutely no way to know which way this will go as craft. It’s a NON-bargained perk, given at the whole discretion of ATT. DONT leave solely on that perk....as many as stated, they can pull it any time! With the money crunch there in.....don’t see them to continue funding it. Just another ploy to get people to leave. I stay 3 more years.....the extra SS benefit will pay for it!!

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Post ID: @1ddk+12SoEm9C

If you are a Union member, please call your Local. You will find this has no effects for two reasons. First is this benefit is covered over your contract. Once your contract is up the Company can do what with that ( basically) Medicare Supplement after 65. So don't run out of here solely based on that benefits( actual a subsidy) . There is no guarantee that by retiring before 01/012021 that they will not refined it later

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Post ID: @1dhz+12SoEm9C

"A health reimbursement account (HRA) is an employer-funded plan that reimburses employees for medical expenses not covered by company-sponsored insurance. Because the employer funds the plan, any distributions are considered tax deductible to the employer." - from www.investopedia.com

This is one reason the company may continue providing the HRA.

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Post ID: @1fay+12SoEm9C

Currently HRA accounts are only funded thru 2023, so bunches of us won't get it anyway. All those who might turn 65 before 2023, might get a year or two of it. They said there will be a review in 2023 to decide if to continue this program. There still is some government money being paid for AT&T to manage over 65 Plan D pr-scrip-ion plans, although all the plans sold thru AON cost.

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Post ID: @1tna+12SoEm9C

A Health Reimbursement Arrangement (H R A) is an employer-funded account that helps employees pay for qualified medical expenses not covered by their health plans. H R A>s are compatible with all types of health insurance plans and they are owned by the employer.

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Post ID: @1boo+12SoEm9C

It's for Management only...contracts cover specifics. Even if you leave before 01/01/2021 do not guarantee those benefits when you turn 65

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Post ID: @yen+12SoEm9C

The Fed is already talking about dropping rates at least a couple times in 2020. Some even suggest negative interest rates at some point. If that happens those taking the Lump sum AFTER Jan 1 2021 would get a big bump in the payout. So you loose either way but the waiting and getting a much larger Lump sum could make up for the loss of HRA.

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Post ID: @hcy+12SoEm9C

Currently they have say no say for Bargained Union members...they keep thier payments

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Post ID: @sad+12SoEm9C

Are you talking about our hsa match?

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Post ID: @zby+12SoEm9C

What is an hra

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Post ID: @hhb+12SoEm9C

Troll

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