Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

Do the newly-hired youngsters really believe in the company?

A lot of people are saying that the new generation of younger employees are far less committed to the company then we used to be, way back when we started many years ago and that they are just working for a paycheck while waiting for a better opportunity to come. To be honest, I believed in AT&T once, and in all the values that the company leadership preached, but if I had the mindset that I have now 20 years ago, I would have never looked at AT&T as a good long term career opportunity. Is the new generation smarter than us in that sense?

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I am 35 and have been with the company since graduating college at 22. After 13+ years here I am still a level 1 manager (despite taking on several roles from former level 2 and even level 3 folks who left) and am seeing zero opportunity for growth. I’m the youngest employee on my team and am treated like an intern or administrative assistant. My raises have been at or below the inflation rate for at least 6 years. My managers didn’t even notice or acknowledge my 10 year service anniversary a few years back.

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Post ID: @5yxc+128dpUB3

"It's a piece of sh– company and the trolls coming on here defending it"

Do you even know what a troll is? Generally it's the person cussing and being hateful. That be you.

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Post ID: @5djr+128dpUB3

Yeah I don’t see how anybody can get on here and defend the company. They have to be soulless or think they are part of the chosen few that att loves.

People really think they are on another level who work at t. Weird they must really be pushing the fantasy that they are becoming google.

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Post ID: @5ggv+128dpUB3

It's a piece of sh– company and the trolls coming on here defending it with all their insecurities are even a bigger piece of sh–.

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Post ID: @3pyo+128dpUB3

I hope the post from the former techdev person is a work of fiction.

You worked in techdev for less than a year.
you then worked somewhere else for 2 years.
and you're now on your third job.

yet you still come to this site to complain about specific things about T leadership in techdev.

Either you seriously need to move on or you're just a troll making stuff up.

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Post ID: @2sbk+128dpUB3

“They couldn't lead a platoon of marines into a "massage parlor"” - Marines is always capitalized. Semper Fi

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Post ID: @1qed+128dpUB3

I joined AT&T’s Technology Development Program, and it was my first full time job after school. I left just before the first year mark, realizing there were no growth opportunities. Leadership has no vision and are only good at spreadsheets. Most of my peers either wanted to leave or were getting their masters before leaving. I went to Facebook for two years and am now at a startup, hopefully my equities make it worthwhile.

Basically, I would say AT&T is a sh–ty place for young people to start their tech career.

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Post ID: @1sam+128dpUB3

Was at the CFL (center for learning, or AT&T University) campus a few months ago. They seem to be catering to the younger folks. For what, I do not know. Was like a college campus. They were all banging each other,

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Post ID: @1dzv+128dpUB3

I’m not aware of anyone under 30 in our org. Most are probably 30-55. Most of the younger ones have parents or relatives that are high up. There’s no growth opportunity. I’ve seen a lot of people come and go since I’ve been here. Most of the old timers are waiting on a package that will never come. The gen x crowd is bidding their time, but typically stick around longer than they should. The millennials are bouncing every couple of years. None of the gen x or millennials are loyal to the company unless their parents or relative is a high up. Most pad the resume and leave. This will be my last year. I’ll be leaving after the holidays on my own accord.

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Post ID: @vqd+128dpUB3

I am 24 and I was hired by AT&T out of school for ~2 years. I see it as a place to learn (they are paying for my masters) and get experience. I am planning on leaving in a year or two and trying to get to FAANG type company with growth prospects. I have seen enough internal politics here to realize that it isn't a great long term place to work. Nobody in upper management has a growth mindset and the 5-10 SVPs I have had in the last few years are all focused on cutting costs even if that k–ls the company in the long term. None of my peers are planning on staying long term from what I can tell.

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Post ID: @ogv+128dpUB3

It seems to be working out for you so far for 20 years. What's the complaint again? Or is it just coming up to that time of the year to b**tch about being employed so long and paid so much.

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Post ID: @qlw+128dpUB3

Group that my son hangs with keeps updated resumes online regardless of the company they work for. Give 2 week notice will travel is their motto.

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Post ID: @mki+128dpUB3

Other than retail, I don't see any other millennials around my town. We had two others; they left way before me. I decided to play the patience game, but I'm out with this MVO. Clearly no good opportunities for career advancement outside the biggest metros. Pay raises don't keep up with inflation. Stock is a t–d. Tired of ducking every few months when the axe swings. Company has no coherent strategy. Boss pressures me to take VAC when I should be on sick leave. Hard to be loyal to that.

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Post ID: @aks+128dpUB3

"I’m starting to wonder if leadership believes we won’t need any employees in another ten to twenty years."

Well, first of all, let's not flatter those parasites with the L word. Most of those called leaders at AT&T are mere paper shuffling leeches. They couldn't lead a platoon of marines into a "massage parlor" even if they had been at sea for a year.

Second, to address your point: yeah, like most clowns with a toxic MBA education these clowns have a simple, child-like faith in machine learning and AI. They would love to replace all of us with an AP that runs on their high end COU phones. Good luck with that "leaders" BWAHAHA.

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Post ID: @gxw+128dpUB3

"Is the new generation smarter than us in that sense?"

In a word, yes. But remember they see companies misbehaving in ways we never did. My millennial kids saw their boomer father laid off multiple times. They saw corporations gut American jobs for profit. They know the game is rigged and that companies expect loyalty but return none. Of course they don't feel any loyalty to a faceless corporate scam factory. How else could they feel after what they have witnessed?

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Post ID: @cpx+128dpUB3

When I was with the company, there were very few people under 50, let alone 30.

All of the “old timers” with all the knowledge were aging out, retiring, and taking all that knowledge with them.

Not a good long term plan.

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Post ID: @ifo+128dpUB3

I don’t know, everyone around my building is between age 40-60 so not many young employees to ask how they feel about this company or their career. I’m starting to wonder if leadership believes we won’t need any employees in another ten to twenty years.

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Post ID: @jui+128dpUB3

Hopefully most of them are smart enough to leave after getting some experience but really any college should avoid t like the plague.

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