Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

AT&T State Contracts in Jeopardy?

There’s a growing concern that AT&T’s State Contracts will suffer if those that support it fall under AT&T’s chopping block. For those not familiar with it, AT&T does multi-year contracts with US states to consolidate government-related entities’ billing under special rates. This includes government facilities, schools, infrastructure and things like that. It adds up to around $60 million a month. And it’s held together by around 25 uniquely skilled people in 4 groups that do it on a shoestring budget.

The first thing to understand is that what AT&T calls the "Billing Consolidator"… the system that pulls all the different types of State-Contract billing together and mashes it into single cohesive bill… is actually 2 unique systems running incompatible databases that can’t directly talk to each other.

CIS is the first system. It collects invoice data from many various billing systems and pulls it all together into a common structure. A lot of the time, the other billing systems are so incompatible that invoices must actually be manually manipulated or even typed in by hand.

The second system is called ACUS. That team helps with getting the invoices into CIS that need manual intervention and makes sure source bills are paid to shore up the books. They also check daily for billing integrity issues. While some issues happen all the time and must be continually fixed, each month is different and unique with its problems. ACUS has 2 groups… the Billing team that coordinates with CIS to make sure billing is accurate, and the Invoicing team that stitches everything together into an acceptable end-customer invoice.

In addition to CIS and ACUS, there’s also the LCM/Support teams. They’re the ones that coordinate with Customer Care people handling calls from customers. They arrange credits. They also work with the ACUS team to set up the hierarchy so billing data goes onto the right invoices. The LCM/Support staff can consist of as little as 1 person per contract that really knows the ins & outs of the people they support. These people are valuable and do a lot with a little.

These 4 groups (CIS, ACUS Billing, ACUS Invoicing and LCM/Support) hold the State Contracts together. Adding all the CIS & ACUS groups together, you have maybe 25 core people that do most of the work and actually understand how it all functions after years of experience that can’t really be documented.

Now, I’m not naïve. I know everyone can be replaced. But I also know from experience that the CIS/ACUS people can’t be replaced easily or quickly. It takes about 6 months just to learn the standard monthly duties adequately. And about a year to learn how to handle all the weird and unique problems that pop up. And even longer than that to gain the instinct to proactively find issues BEFORE it impacts customers.

None of the teams I’ve mentioned are listed as “safe” from outsourcing. If they’re let go without (at least) six months to train people with the bare minimum to handle known issues, the future of AT&T State Contracts is probably in jeopardy.

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Yes acus does take a while to learn how to use. We used to handle refunds, and credits as well as payment transfers, disputes and billing inquiries. Now all of that was transferred to another state that does not even use that system. Then take away our access so that we can not help anyone who calls us for help. So no. AT&T does not think through the whole process before acting.

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Post ID: @bmrs+11mTa7IX

I worked for ACUS when it dealt. With colleges and universities, its original business and then later when it became the “bill consolidator. I can tell you from first hand knowledge that the value of the various government, and government related contracts, is far more than $60 million per month. Many of these contracts AT&T wouldn’t even hold if there weren’t organizations such as ACUS, CIS and IBS, which isn’t even mentioned here.

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Post ID: @2cju+11mTa7IX

Dedicated 911 will now work bvoip mostly, Y’all been trained.

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Post ID: @1kro+11mTa7IX

So you say it takes 1 year to get people up to speed and that is just how long these contracting companies say they will keep outsourced employees. People say they won't help with the knowledge transfer, but when you have kids to feed, mortgage and bills to pay you will keep working so you don't end up unemployed. Not like you can also find another job so quickly.

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Post ID: @jby+11mTa7IX

ok Mr. Self Important, please post back when you get your 60 day notice.

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Post ID: @usy+11mTa7IX

You have given the company a good heads up to take special care of your team’s replacement by us. Thank you for the help.

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Post ID: @gve+11mTa7IX

May be these contracts were not pushed trhoug given AT&T history of deceptive sales practices, in fact AT&T has put legal clauses in the fine print of all enterprise and customer agreements that bar them from suing them in federal court and instead force victims to pursue a private dispute resolution method called arbitration, where they argue their case outside of the court system, typically paid by AT&T arbitrators, Some companies and State jurisdictions may not want AT&T at all.

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Post ID: @ffr+11mTa7IX

Short answer. Yes. State contracts are in jeopardy if ATT lets those people go. But the question is do they care or even understand? It's only like 700 million a year they'd lose, and they'd save around 2 million a year by letting those 25-ish people go. Wait! That doesn't make sense. But it does if you look at Elliot Management, who bought a ton of ATT stock & is encouraging all the offshoring & layoffs to boost the price. It's all about short-term stock price gain. Elliot Management will cash out after the stock goes up but before the repercussions hit from the loss of people that knew how to keep things running. Then they'll leave ATT with the mess to pick up after they're long gone & enjoying their profit.

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Post ID: @rnl+11mTa7IX

If the call centers treat our government customers the same way they treat our business and residential customers then yeah, we could lose them too.

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Post ID: @ajk+11mTa7IX

Not trying to seem negative to you, but that is a small fish in a deep sea. Anything can happen at anytime. As I have read many times on this site, just be prepared.

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Post ID: @vfn+11mTa7IX

they can outsource their entire operation right now, without affecting their c-appy reputation. If something AT&T is good at is to repmace you and me in a bli k of an eye....they have vast options, secundary protocol to run their business

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Post ID: @mjw+11mTa7IX

Here in Florida , we lost the MFN business or (My Florida Network) which was a state wide government network. We are going around now and collecting all the mfn Cisco routers from all the government sites. I don’t remember who the other company is that won the contract with the state but we At&t blew it. That’s a billion dollar contract we lost.

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Post ID: @zth+11mTa7IX

I have seen key people surplussed and the resulting mess / confusion that comes after it because there is no one left who know how things operated. And some have them been in go forward products.
You give AT&T too much credit if you think they actually think about ramifications before they take act.

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