Lets c what bs we get today
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What about us Gen Xers? I value my boomers as they bring years of experience and proven ability to shift to new tech as it emerges. My employees their 50’s run circles around the vast majority of my employee. Especially those under 30. They understand the business, know how not to screw up systems.
You youngsters better learn from them or you’ll be washed out well before your 40’s. Remember they have moved from Cobol, to C and its variants, to java then to python. Many of their peers couldn’t make the move to Java 20 years ago and are no longer in IT. If you were on my team, you’d change your attitude or be the first name on my list to go.
Most of you youngsters couldn’t manage or lead yourself out of box if you did t have google.
I love this thread. It is so true.... we built the toys that the millennials (once called the “digerati”) cannot live without. Building friendly pocket tech is infinitely more advanced and rewarding than staring at it as you walk into people.
Dear Children, I get the OK Boomer thing, we earned it.
But when it comes to tech, our generation invented all the toys you play with now.
And knowing how to use an Instagram filter is not the same as understanding the actual tech inside your device.
Now, children, go wet a bed, and stop dissing' your elders. :-)
The "boomer" just has always tried very hard to keep up with the latest, and greatest IT technology and software. It is quite impossible to be an expert at every technology and programming software language that exists today. Find some of them to become an "expert" on. The "boomer" is always inquisitive and excited about learning new things. That is what our generation was taught to do and what we have taught our children to do.
A typical "boomer" in IT has most likely been working in IT since their college years.
Sure, this is "that guy" (but I am a female) with all of the numerous IT technical skills listed and I do work at Wells Fargo, as an internal employee for a long time now. You do not recognize all of my technical skills as being from Wells Fargo because they are NOT. Worked at many different banks and companies before. Older employees often have a much greater range of skills than the younger employees due to life long experience.
Actually 5tyl that guy is typical of a boomer with a long term love of systems. And you’re a typical millennial who won’t make it past your second paradigm shift. Seen it hundreds of times.
RE: "as I grew older my scope of knowledge about all of the different technology tools greatly expanded. Experience with C++, JAVA, JavaScript, Perl, Cobol, SAS, SQL, T-SQL, Pascal, Assembler, PL/1, Mainframe JCL, Visual Basic, DHTML, HTML. Web Design, IBM Mainframe, UNIX, Oracle, SQL Server, Netezza, Access, etc."
Whomever wrote this is NOT a Tech Person at Wells. It's kind of funny actually.
All you people slamming those of us who have 20+ years at Wells Fargo need to get a life! I’m proud of what I’ve accomplished in my career at WF.
If you can't spot the losers at Wells Fargo in 30-minutes - you're the loser.
There are smart boomers and dumb boomers and smart millennials and dumb millennials.
The problem with the dumb boomers and dumb millennials is they don't know they're dumb and think everyone else is the problem.
There are some people on this thread that are not representing themselves in a very good light.
And they say there is No Age Discrimination! !! Bulls**t !! All the comments below just prove that fact !!
Oh right, about that very much younger MBA co-worker that demanded that I train him in programming. I remember he stated to me "I have to think about myself". A real "team player" there.
A few years ago a co-worker of mine at Wells Fargo that sat next to me noticed what type of IT tech work I was doing there. This co-worker was much younger than me, probably by 25 + years. He had an MBA and seemed to not have much work to do. Dabbled in some programming. One day he started demanding that I train him to do what I was doing. I am willing to train younger co-workers. Asked my Manager if they needed someone like him to assist us and offered to train him. My Manager said "No, we do not need someone like that in our department".
The older I get, with more experience, the better I get at all of the programming tools required for my high tech job at Wells Fargo. In addition, as I grew older my scope of knowledge about all of the different technology tools greatly expanded. Experience with C++, JAVA, JavaScript, Perl, Cobol, SAS, SQL, T-SQL, Pascal, Assembler, PL/1, Mainframe JCL, Visual Basic, DHTML, HTML. Web Design, IBM Mainframe, UNIX, Oracle, SQL Server, Netezza, Access, etc. Plus all of the business knowledge in many different types of business areas that I worked in during my career. I am older but wiser than when I was younger. That is for sure. Could not have known all of that when I was a younger person. It takes time and experience to learn all of these tech tools and the business knowledge. I am VERY busy at my job at Wells Fargo using my IT knowledge acquired over many years. So ….
Wait, what? job framework reworking? Merit increases? what the heck is this about?
this meeting was a huge waste of time
what value does a 40+ year team member bring to the table in tech/IT?
Hey -bnk, I've been here over a decade and I can clearly see my fifties in the rear view mirror.
I'm not sure who you're referencing, but lots of us old timers agree that Wells tech is stuck in 1997.
But we've also seen these companywide one size forced on all initiatives is a recipe for stupid. They're bait for management to feel like they're doing something.
There are a lot of IT teams that go no where near any code and we're being pushed into Agile training that will not benefit our jobs.
And now, I'll do my Agile shot. Oops, two shots now!
people like this (20+ year, stale employees) are the reason we are in such a sad state
speak of the devil. one of our illustrious retired in place team members! 25 years here.. retire and make room for some new blood
peoples heads are already imploding over agile. mainly our large cache of retired in place people who have been here waaay too long
more people from JPM rinsing and repeating what they did there