Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

Looks like time to Strike in D3!!!

Almost one week after expiration of the contract extension, negotiations seem to be stalling. During nearly two months of bargaining, your bargaining team has attempted to negotiate with the company on many of their proposals, as retrogressive as they may be. Unfortunately, the company has continued its attempt to devalue almost all of the Union's proposals. The parties have reached agreement on some items related to the processing of surplus employees. However, your bargaining team is determined to reach an overall agreement that builds on existing job protections and keeps our members employed, not just streamlining the process for employees to be laid off. As Vice President Honeycutt explained to the company at the opening of negotiations, our members deserve respect, recognition, and loyalty. The company continues to negotiate with a view of our members as a liability. Your solidarity activities across the District today sent a str ong message to the company that the remaining issues are important to our members, and an overall agreement cannot be reached without addressing those issues. District 3 leadership clearly reiterated that same message to the company's leadership today. A silent storm is brewing across District 3. The company is on notice that we are prepared to do whatever it takes to achieve an agreement our members deserve - and demand!

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Post ID: @OP+10Ah7M0G

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To the OP, its called blowing smoke up the memberships a_ _. You will go a year or so with the existing contract and get thrown some TA that is agreed to on the golf course.

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Post ID: @2euu+10Ah7M0G

@2xxp...good stuff...haven't heard any one in network saying they got assignments but it's good to hear what's going on in all departments. Tkx!

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Post ID: @2uhu+10Ah7M0G

To those that said managers were not given strike assignments —. As a level 2 manager in IT, just like in the past, we received a strike assignment and had to complete our CP training. Vacations are not cancelled nor have they been in the past. If on vacation a manager with a strike assignment Is expected to return from their vacation and appear at their assigned location within 24 hours of being deployed.

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Post ID: @2xxp+10Ah7M0G

2vbo, the poster 1dgd is right, if you are going to make a claim back it up! You can provide facts without divulging confidential info. It would be easy to simply say something like " there are now contractors in hotels in Miami and Atlanta." He didn't ask for any incriminating info. He just asked for the claim to be backed up with a shred of evidence, not in the past but now.

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Post ID: @2kha+10Ah7M0G

@2qkt..." That's how it went the last two negotiations"....my point exactly... wake up and smell the reality....this one is different, T is cutting craft, managers, outsourcing, selling properties, etc....1st time in about 50 years or so that I am aware of that managers were not given strike assignments or taking up keys, phones, laptops etc...i wasn't trying to "out a source", I'm just saying that this contract time is unlike any other before.

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Post ID: @2ufv+10Ah7M0G

There are no contractors in hotels to save the skirt managers this go around. Upper management will watch you and then fire you for failure to work. Get out.

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Post ID: @2ehe+10Ah7M0G

@1dgd LOL. YEAH... Give specific information so his contact can get fired. Don’t be a jackass.

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Post ID: @2vbo+10Ah7M0G

@1dgd Why don't you get your own connections then dipshit. I've moved away and haven't kept in touch with that person. That's how it went the last two negotiations.

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Post ID: @2qkt+10Ah7M0G

D3 will get screwed like D4 in the end, eventually you will be asked to get on a call and write your congressmen about what at&t is doing which will mean nothing at all in the end. We at D4 got sent up the river on this co tract and you will too.

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Post ID: @1sly+10Ah7M0G

Correction...@1blw........

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Post ID: @1cgm+10Ah7M0G

@1lbw...once again where? Not what has happened in the past, where are the contractors on standby in hotels now? Where are the managers with cancelled vacations now for this contract where they weren't assigned strike duties or took up our keys, phones, and laptops?

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Post ID: @1dgd+10Ah7M0G

@1kwu They definitely have contractors on standby in hotels. I’ve been told by friend managing a large hotel chain in the past. Managers are expected to return to work in 24 hours if a strike is called which essentially cancels any vacations they have planned.

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Post ID: @1blw+10Ah7M0G

@1tno...divide & conquer...yep, that's what T is doing to us without a unified contract date. Why does the U management team remain silent on this issue? Should be priority #1.

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Post ID: @1czk+10Ah7M0G

"Not sure why they still have all these regional contracts. There should be just one national contract covering all employees. "

It is called "divide and conquer".

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Post ID: @1tno+10Ah7M0G

@juq...I agree about strike calling people, but where are there contractors in hotels standing by and where are managers that had vacations cancelled? From all I have seen and heard T never even took up our keys or phones and it's my understanding that managers were not even assigned strike duties.

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Post ID: @1kwu+10Ah7M0G

They won’t strike. If they do, the company will bring in contractors to do the work, especially in for construction(which is what they want).

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Post ID: @ksp+10Ah7M0G

@jcn.....T doesn't want a national contract date to avoid the possibility of a nationwide walkout. The U doesn't want a national contract date because it would give the U management team zero excuses for not walking out, not that a walkout would be the wise thing to do in today's environment. As it is now, T wins because they know there is no chance in Hades that we'd walk. The U management team wins because they take our $ under the "fighting for you" guise all the while knowing that they will take what T gives them.

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Post ID: @tbc+10Ah7M0G

CWA dropped the ball years ago. Ain't no turning back now, go get yourself a Six Pack and enjoy the Roller Coaster ride =(

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Post ID: @ypc+10Ah7M0G

I am holding my breath that we get through August 31st without a Strike. If we make it to September 1st, maybe a strike can be avoided.

August 31st is a Saturday. The date fits if a Strike is called.

We've got two weeks........

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Post ID: @dny+10Ah7M0G

Sorry guys, D4 sold you out, just like they did their dues paying members. There will be no strike. Your union will sit out of contract for a while to make it look like they're fighting really hard for you, and then cave and take whatever AT&T offers.

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Post ID: @yeo+10Ah7M0G

You strike calling people are id–ts.

It’s costing the company money to have contractors on standby in hotels and CWA membership still working.

It’s causing an inconvenience to management who’s vacations are canceled.

And lastly, it gives any members who don’t have a proper strike fund time and money to set up a strike fund.

Get a clue before typing your ignorant opinion.

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Post ID: @juq+10Ah7M0G

All talk no action. Nobody gonna strike, unless there is some agreement between the company and the CWA for alike a 3 day strike so to speak. Reasonable people will come to reasonable terms and your new contract will look very similar to the last 5 contracts agreed on already. Not sure why they still have all these regional contracts. There should be just one national contract covering all employees.

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Post ID: @jcn+10Ah7M0G

@luc...you mean 100% vote as always.

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Post ID: @vmt+10Ah7M0G

@cho...yep we all bust em every day hot and cold day and night and would like to get as much for that as possible but when T makes it perfectly clear they want as few people as possible and as many of them to be contractors as possible that's not the time to be increasing the size of the chip on your shoulder. Doing so increases their desire to lock us out. The times simply aren't what they used to be. There are many 100% capacity cables that are now almost empty or have even been removed/RIP. They have already announced capping the fiber uverse tv service and the fiber buildout. The U of today(regardless of who is at the helm) doesn't have the leverage it once had. Make no mistake about it, T isn't the only flavor of koolaid being sold out there these days. Stay thirsty my friend.

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Post ID: @pvv+10Ah7M0G

“Silent Storm”......LOL!! Who comes up with this stuff?? The finalized Southeast TA that will be presented will be in the same ballpark as the recently ratified MW core contract. All the members will run around talking tough about how they are going to vote it down and then, shocker, it will be ratified with a 60%-70% yes vote. Members will threaten to get out of the union and say that it’s unbelievable that it was ratified. Within a week of ratification everything will be BAU again and we won’t hear another word about it until the next contract expiration.

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Post ID: @luc+10Ah7M0G

We're more like AT&T workers busting our asses everyday for AT&T's systems, sales, and facilities. Anyone who drinks the company Koolaid about employees being obsolete should probably pay attention to the fact that AT&T is fighting for the ability to give your job to contractors when domestic and send it overseas otherwise. They still want the labor, maybe less of it, but most of all they want to not have to deal with paying for it. Yeah, sounds just like horse and buggy jobs being decimated by the advent of an entire industrial revolution producing a superior method of manufacturing a superior method of travel. Sip sip, tasty Koolaid.

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Post ID: @cho+10Ah7M0G

We're like the Horse & Buggy Builders of America busting into GM & Ford's office and telling them how things are gonna be.

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Post ID: @kcj+10Ah7M0G

How's that unified contract date(aka our 1 true leverage tool) coming along?

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Post ID: @urh+10Ah7M0G

Each passing day of working without a contract reiterates the insignificance of the contract.

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Post ID: @hvz+10Ah7M0G

Silent storm brewing? Lightning already struck with the 911 brothers and sisters(not to mention the managers also) that T said they don't need anymore and it looks like they are just getting started, that's not exactly silent.

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Post ID: @awf+10Ah7M0G

LMAO! Come on with all that bargaining report bs. Be a cold day in hell before cwa calls a strike. Maybe a strike vote to appease the members. But that will be it. Cwa is nothing but layoff secretaries these days. The days of big labor from the 70’s are over

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Post ID: @fhu+10Ah7M0G

The company got what they wanted already.

The Mid-West settled. The goal was to ensure that two regions didn't go out at the same time. Since that is no longer a danger, they can simply ignore the SE Regions demands because a single region going out likely won't even make the news for more than a day or so.

The Union allowed the company to offset the contracts which effectively defangs the entire threat of a strike. In retrospect, ( assuming it survives ) I hope the Union realizes how stupid that decision was as it basically destroys any possible leverage they may have held.

Now ?

You'll get what the company gives you and you'll like it regardless if you think it appropriate or not.
( A token pay raise and an increase in your healthcare premiums that negate it )

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