Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

48 years old with over 15 years w. The company. What should I expect?

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Post ID: @OP+Y4bpdGD

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Getting a nano degree only keeps you even with everyone else that has one; doesn't give you any advantage.

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Post ID: @2hbf+Y4bpdGD

The company does not care about you. Even if you do great work and are a top producer. Odds are your boss plays favorites and his lap dogs are praised on their end of the year while you get a "meh". Reality at T is sh-- floats. I imagine one day bosses will look around and wonder where everyone who can actually do work and get things done have gone. I see far to many people in my work group alone who can not do this job yet, they are rated in the top 3.

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Post ID: @1tac+Y4bpdGD

I know we rag on this company a lot but the name alone will get you a job interview anywhere in the world of media. Prepare.

Bull - this is not true. I have seen it where it is a detriment on your resume. The companies hire you and your skills not where you used to work.

HR people know you can hide at companies like att and not do a thing and they also know most the training inside the company is useless. nano nano

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Post ID: @1ycx+Y4bpdGD

"In my experience I've yet to see anyone laid off who had their area of responsibility (engineering and/or technical) nailed down and running as smoothly as possible. It's called ownership. You'll have a team of say ten persons and half are basically spectators due to slacking and then going into stealth mode when things go south. "

Yeah I have seen the so called "leaders" and their ownership. usually they are the ones going into stealth when the c-ap they created is unmanageable and unmaintainable because they talked the loudest at meetings even though the c-ap they were saying was wrong but it sounded good and the clueless managers bought it. Eventually you get tired of cleaning up the so called leaders doo doo because all they could do is snow management.

So far I have seen the leaders who do that not get touched but the people who actually do the work and clean up the doo doo that the so called leaders leave behind after they gone on to another project to screw up.

My new place of work blows the doors off of the so called leaders and engineers at att technically.

Att idea of having having technical responsibility is running macafee on unix. Just call the government and john Mcafee if you have a problem.

att idea of leaders is a crock. if you can talk of your arse you are a leader.

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Post ID: @1yty+Y4bpdGD

In my experience I've yet to see anyone laid off who had their area of responsibility (engineering and/or technical) nailed down and running as smoothly as possible. It's called ownership. You'll have a team of say ten persons and half are basically spectators due to slacking and then going into stealth mode when things go south. Nothing new there but much easier to hide your incompetency as either staff or upper management in a company this size.

So keep your curiosity level high and learn as much as you can. In the eventuality you tire of AT&T and want to move on you'll have an upper hand with experience. One other thing, bear in mind that a resume with AT&T listed in job history carries a lot of weight. I know we rag on this company a lot but the name alone will get you a job interview anywhere in the world of media. Prepare.

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Post ID: @1nca+Y4bpdGD

Always say,”YES.” Look busy all of the time. Subscribe to all of the employee discounts that are offered (because HR is tracking them). Complete more training (on time) than you do actual work. Be where you are supposed to be. Don’t make waves. Donate to the United Way. Volunteer and document your time and make the Presidents list. Don’t get involved with Sedgwick because AT$T will evaluate your health risks and may even take out a life insurance policy on you (do a google search on that one). Basically, all of the old knowledge and talent is leaving and there is plenty of room to grow. Some retired employees have been asked to return because those left on payroll don’t have the experience that was lost when they left. You will be okay. Just remember to have a Plan B.

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Post ID: @bth+Y4bpdGD

you are old and worthless with no future.

McDonald's is hiring.

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Post ID: @ulz+Y4bpdGD

A nanodegree is bad enough, but honestly who in their right mind would put T-space badges on a resume? Interviewer: "What is a T-Space?" "What is a Leading with Distinction Badge?" "Did you get, like a vest with those badges or something?"

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Post ID: @gqz+Y4bpdGD

good advice here. definitely get skills outside of what T supposedly teaches you. it will pay dividends. sign up for some on line learning on your own and learn what the rest of the world is learning that will go towards a certification. most importantly learn what you like and become great at it.

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Post ID: @amc+Y4bpdGD

I would seriously start looking and find another job. I stayed way to long and regretted it. T thinks innovation comes from the young or something. HR and asset management are monsters. Started with SBC was much better and the government should never allowed SBC to buy all the baby bells back. Did nothing but cause problems. I hope they get broken up again and will be pushing my representative to break them up. They are definitely too big and dangerous. But hey when you spend millions on getting government to do thing your way it is a hard fight.

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Post ID: @dxt+Y4bpdGD

"Those AT&T badges mean nothing, take them off your Resume" Get a Cisco or Microsoft certification, they can help" LOL - put att badges on your resume. almost 95% of the training I got at the T was worthless I would almost be embarrassed to put them on my resume.

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Post ID: @exx+Y4bpdGD

Expect constant anxiety and maybe an ulcer, if your lucky enough your health will have gotten so bad from the stress you can claim disability and be on your way to an unscheduled early retirement.

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Post ID: @irj+Y4bpdGD

Constant stress due the fear of having your job outsourced. 48 is not that old, beef up your resume, and start looking outside the company. Fore warned, is fore armed.

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Post ID: @kpb+Y4bpdGD

BOHICA

all you really need to know

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Post ID: @rww+Y4bpdGD

A friend of mine stayed over( on his own time) to earn 23 "Badges" After being surplused, he got an interview. The HR person told him straight up "Those AT&T badges mean nothing, take them off your Resume" Get a Cisco or Microsoft certification, they can help.

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Post ID: @reu+Y4bpdGD

I'm 49 with 25 years. In my opinion, you should expect the same thing as me. I have been paying down debt, saving an emergency fund, brushing up resume and LinkedIn, and networking., I have a couple leads on potential new jobs when the time comes.

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Post ID: @bfg+Y4bpdGD

@ptm -- I am just laughing out loud thinking about some poor fool trying to explain what a "nanodegree" is to a prospective employer.

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Post ID: @sww+Y4bpdGD

The nano degree for mgmt is kind of like the old TKT was for nonmgmt. Doesn’t guarantee a job. Gives you a leg up if there is a position available. Also some certification that may help with job hunting outside of the company. Had a guy tell me that his Director told some of them during a skip level meeting that just signing up to take it or finishing and not trying to apply that knowledge wasn’t the intent. That was a couple of years ago when there were jobs available for people with that certification. Actually asked a couple who had finished why they weren’t pursuing those jobs because he would put a word in for them. One told him he just took it to put on his Amplify.

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Post ID: @bkz+Y4bpdGD

Nano nano

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Post ID: @qbe+Y4bpdGD

Nano degrees mean nothing when speaking about job security. I’ve got 23 years / 56 years old with a nano degree and I will be off payroll March 29th.

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Post ID: @jfa+Y4bpdGD

@Y4bpdGD-wiu- you must be in a collaborate zone. Laid off after 18 yrs with no accidents, no missed days and training for three different career paths. In the end it’s all about the bottom dollar - who costs the company less and did you win a popularity contest with your boss.

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Post ID: @lwc+Y4bpdGD

What to expect ? Surplus Surplus Surplus

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Post ID: @hmp+Y4bpdGD

Stop posting here. Go to udacity.com and get a nano degree. May or may not be useful at AT&T but definitely increase your skill set.

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Post ID: @ptm+Y4bpdGD

keep up and expand your skill level and you should be fine. i've noticed that older tech and engineers who don't become stale last until retirement. knowledge is power.

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Post ID: @wiu+Y4bpdGD

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