That RIF and the way in which it was executed (conference call) is the primary reason I left the company voluntarily and I do not regret it. Although I understand it was a business decision to stop investing in Solaris and Sparc, and that they had their reasons for doing so, the company could have been a lot more humane about how they went about this RIF. I hope all the people who gave so many dedicated years to Sparc and Solaris that were impacted have found better opportunities one year later.
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Rehiring? Sun people? Doesn’t square with what I know is going on in the old Solaris group. Unless the closing of EMEA and APAC centers was really affecting support numbers. Bc that is all oracle managers care about.
I'm sure it killed HR to have to bring anyone back. I'll bet these cases are few and far between.
"Even if the sales of sparc servers running Solaris went through the goddang roof, O would never hire back the old people who made the decent coin."
Actually, they have hired people back since the RIF.
| I'd agree, Solaris is irrelevant today except to existing customers, as they fade away and move to
| AWS. No startups, students, or application development groups would be downloading Solaris to
| even kick the tires anymore.
What's the point in kicking flat tires?
I'd agree, Solaris is irrelevant today except to existing customers, as they fade away and move to AWS. No startups, students, or application development groups would be downloading Solaris to even kick the tires anymore.
Solaris and SPARC aren't "dead"
Ok, let me rephrase it for you.
Solaris and SPARC are "irrelevant".
No one cares!
Better now?
Even if the sales of sparc servers running Solaris went through the goddang roof, O would never hire back the old people who made the decent coin. They would set up a support center in some overseas location where labor is cheap. Solaris is not going to ever be a huge player in the OS market. It’s a niche, not that there is anything wrong with that.
Solaris and SPARC aren't "dead", they are just on the same downward portion of the software lifecycle as HP-UX and IBM AIX. Security patches, updates to third-party FOSS, and arbitrary hacks from the few remaining developers will continue for another decade, and this new 11.4 release just buys Oracle more time to try to herd the remaining customers to the lowly Oracle Cloud. If by "dead" you mean that there will be no more new SPARC Solaris customers, you are right. No CIO or enterprise software architects would risk their reputations or careers doing that.
Gee, from some of the comments the future for Solaris and SPARC seem down right rosey. Maybe Oracle will need to hire back some of the folks they RIFed. But seriously, these technologies could live to 2020, but it's only because of customers who didn't have foresight to migrate to new technologies. The price for their mistake will be fork over huge support costs to Oracle.
Kellyanne Conway is auditioning for a new job.
drain the swamp
The last 2 comments are from id--ts (most likely Oracle Competitors) who cannot s--- up the fact a new OS release for Solaris has come out and will use every excuse in the book to defame this fact. And what about the new Oracle VM Server 3.6 (AKA ldoms) for Sparc that is coming out soon? Is that also indication of stopping development of the Solaris OS? This thread will go on and on why this new release of Solaris REALLY means the OS is dead..right?
OH please get over yourself. I came from that space and I know you are full of it and so do you. They gutted any new development, maintenance releases only.
I know.
Woo-Hoo!
Solaris Senior Directors and a few leftover s----ups are reading this board today.
It's kind of funny that the only site where Solaris 11.4 gets any press is on a layoffs board.
Keep it up, boys. It's fun to watch.
Oh I am so sad you think that Solaris 11.4 is not a new release of the OS just because it is not called 12. So sad that customers surveys decided the progression from the 12 release to a less intrusive dot release.
Download it here today :
https://www.oracle.com/technetwork/server-storage/solaris11/downloads/index.html
@USqSu2A-bwc: NEVER.
When is S12 coming out????
And they stopped investing so much into Solaris that they just released the new version of the OS today - Solaris 11.4 GA is now available. DUH!!!!!!!
the (not so) funny thing about this is the fact that after a year, and after all the badmouth on the press/internet, and after all the badmouth from Oracle tech colleagues, and after all the badmouth from local VP saying to customers that "SPARC is dead you must buy cloud or Exadata", well, after all of this, SPARC is still selling a lot... so much that Oracle has been forced to announce the M8+ in 2020 (a fake processor, everyone knows, but nevertheless it means that Oracle thinks that SPARC will be alive until at least 2022)
another bright example of our management's clear vision and deep understanding of the future.