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Hey look - the new Solaris OS is out today.Sorry but no Jim...it is not dead....

And you can even download it here https://www.oracle.com/technetwork/server-storage/solaris11/downloads/index.html

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Post ID: @OP+UShgjqt

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... and the demand for it was overwhelming! ):

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Post ID: @4qlq+UShgjqt

I hope people understand this release was the code base being developed when Solaris was shut down. It usually takes 6-9 months to stabilize, test and do release management for a release once it goes code complete. It took a little longer this time because most of engineering was RIF'd and it wasn't at code complete stage, hence things to tidy up and a lot of bugs to fix.

Don't expect any new features from now. The remaining people and RPE folk are just working on keeping it going and updating open source components.

It's over now. Light a candle.

RIP Solaris.

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Post ID: @3bht+UShgjqt

My understanding is that 11.4 has a meltdown fix.

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Post ID: @3tcs+UShgjqt

Isn’t x86 Solaris STILL vulnerable to Meltdown? How on a Earth would anyone call that a secure OS? Oracle isn’t even trying anymore.

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Post ID: @3chz+UShgjqt

@UShgjqt-2axb:

have you seen the open Linux vulnerabilities?

100% predictable whataboutism.

Yes, Linux has security vulnerabilities too. RHEL 7.2 has 28 known security vulnerabilities:

https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-25/product_id-38/version_id-5447/Redhat-Linux-7.2.html

That's much less than Solaris. And that doesn't make Solaris the most secure OS with the smallest attack surface.

Try another one. This one isn't a winner. Solaris is a joke when it comes to security.

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Post ID: @2apm+UShgjqt

Solaris security patches are not available to Solaris downloaders that want to evaluate it. Go look it up.

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Post ID: @2qcu+UShgjqt

@UShgjqt-2ksa : are you serious? have you seen the open Linux vulnerabilities?

jeez, sometimes fanboys really piss me off, I mean Linux is still today vulnerable to many variants of Spectre, and there is no known patch unless you rewrite a good part of the kernel AND you re-engineer the x86 hw.

Solaris and SPARC were immune from Meltdown from the beginning and the patch for Spectre was quickly arranged, then Oracle decided to not publish them because the security group didn't want to put in bad light Linux, and they waited for Intel to release the patch for x86. that's the story, and you are telling me that Solaris has a couple of vulnerabilites? just pathetic.

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Post ID: @2axb+UShgjqt

@UShgjqt-2nxn:

Solaris is since many years the most secure OS with the smallest attack surface

Really. cvedetails.com disagrees:

  • Solaris 11.3: 251 known security vulnerabilities:

https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list.php?vendor_id=93&product_id=19755&version_id=193602&page=1&has-xp=0&opdos=0&opec=0&opov=0&opcsrf=0&opgpriv=0&opsqli=0&opxss=0&opdirt=0&opmemc=0&ophttprs=0&opbyp=0&opfileinc=0&opginf=0&cvssscoremin=0&cvssscoremax=0&year=0&month=0&cweid=0&order=1&trc=251&sha=3221bd106bc415ee5287ecce160630e61205ddf7

  • Solaris 11.2: 71 known security vulnerabilities:

https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list.php?vendor_id=93&product_id=19755&version_id=182085&page=1&has-xp=0&opdos=0&opec=0&opov=0&opcsrf=0&opgpriv=0&opsqli=0&opxss=0&opdirt=0&opmemc=0&ophttprs=0&opbyp=0&opfileinc=0&opginf=0&cvssscoremin=0&cvssscoremax=0&year=0&month=0&cweid=0&order=1&trc=71&sha=bc22e94064267ea7ec6f3de02831f0f2c40d5503

This doesn't include the vulnerabilities Oracle chooses not to disclose.

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Post ID: @2ksa+UShgjqt

@UShgjqt-2niu : b---s---, only pure b---s---. Security patches have been, are and will be released regularly. Solaris was the only OS safe from Meltdown from the very beginning, but Oracle didn't advertise because the strategy is to push Linux and let Solaris (not so) slowly dye.

Solaris is since many years the most secure OS with the smallest attack surface and the smallest number of known real attacks. The just released Solaris 11.4 is the only Unix OS certified V7.

Solaris is dead, or better irrelevant, unfortunately true, but it is still the best OS available, with the most advanced features the best virtualization and the most useful tools, all included and free (well, apart the support of course). But as someone else already said, being the best doesn't mean you are a winner. Unfortunately.

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Post ID: @2nxn+UShgjqt

Not worth downloading because they won't provide security updates. Basically an insult to anyone spending the time to install and prototype something with it. Good luck!

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Post ID: @2niu+UShgjqt

@UShgjqt-1udn

Of course what troll poster @UShgjqt-1bmc failed to mention is that Oracle can pull back that timeframe for support anytime they deem fit.

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Post ID: @1coy+UShgjqt

@UShgjqt-1siz

I agree, Solaris is an awesome operating system, probably the best and has been for 20+ years. However better doesn't always mean continued viability. See betamax, laserdisk, the Tucker and a host of other superior products that faded away. shame really but sometimes "good enough" is "good enough".

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Post ID: @1qmu+UShgjqt

Even open source, Solaris still dead. Too late. Why would a company invested so much time and budget on certain linux and move to Solaris? Redhat, Centos, and Suse all developed their own niches and supported a lot of applications perfectly fine for years. Why move and re-learn and restricting the choice of hardware? What will Oracle gain from Open Source Solaris? Support revenue? but Oracle Support is going downhill on every single product .... mostly triaged from India. Will have to wait half of the clock for escalation.

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Post ID: @1sha+UShgjqt

Solaris will only live if they open source it. Otherwise, it is dead dead dead.

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Post ID: @1xli+UShgjqt

I actually like Solaris. It has quite a lot of nice features. Love dtrace and libumem! Alas though the era of proprietary Operating Systems is fading giving way to the one world order of a single OS for all. Linux the Communist OS!

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Post ID: @1siz+UShgjqt

SCO Unix is #1

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Post ID: @1muw+UShgjqt

@UShgjqt-1bmc - no matter how you want to spin this, Solaris is on life support and is a dying product that will only shrink over time. Supporting something until 2034 doesn't mean it's going to grow. You and I both know they decimated the development team last year as well as a chunk of sustaining. Sure, there will remain a small team of experts keeping it supported and maybe adding stuff to the "dot" releases. That team will get smaller over time. Depending on your age, it may be worth it to stick around waiting for a package. If you still have a few decades of work ahead of you, or even a decade, it would be foolish to bet your career on that OS.

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Post ID: @1udn+UShgjqt

Bet people will just be jumping to hop on that exciting release! I'm sure it's a game changer. Yea, good luck with that.

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Post ID: @1bof+UShgjqt

Right..of course there all negative comments as expected from the id--ts on this board..and the "life support" goes out until 2034. That sure is a long time on a life support system.

http://www.oracle.com/us/support/library/lifetime-support-hardware-301321.pdf

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Post ID: @1bmc+UShgjqt

I think the term is "maintenance release" If you look at the feature list, it patches bugs, updates certain tools like Python and insures forward compatibility with current hardware while maintaining rear facing hardware compatibility. you know, "maintenance".

And you are right, it is not "dead". it is on life support.

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Post ID: @1jwt+UShgjqt

@UShgjqt-xyl: LOL! Exactly.

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Post ID: @suv+UShgjqt

For those still in denial.

Hey look - this is still here too: https://myspace.com/

Do you still use it?

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Post ID: @xyl+UShgjqt

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