Thread regarding Oracle Corp. layoffs

There are many new reqs up. They are not all NCGs. For the right skill sets in certain geos. Maybe not the Bay Area so much. Many in other US tech hubs.

In the valley, loyalty is treated as not being worth poaching, switching jobs every 2-3 years for a 10% or more pay jump each time beats the pay raises you get for staying in place.

@P5bQp1E-ubd while the pay differential was bad between those hired at a currently competitive rate vs. those who suffered years of low or no raises during the bad times at Sun and then Oracle's very unevenly distributed raises, I don't think it was quite that bad. Last I heard, NCG's in California were getting $120k-$130k/year, and some of the H1-B public notice postings seemed to line up there, while as a Senior Principal Eng. with over 15 years in Solaris, I was getting ~$210k/year Salary. (No cash bonuses in recent years, but still got choice of stock options or RSUs every year, well before our focal reviews ever finished.)

On the bright side, at current market rates, a lot of people affected today should end up with a nice pay increase at their next job.

"They are hiring as much cheap labor as they can (especially college grads"

The word at SCA is that the grads were often paid more than some Senior Principal Engineers. Most would bolt after their first anniversary (and no pay increase), except for the H1-B's (and even many of those bolted).

Oracle cloud? well, good luck. We as a customer have tried to use it after big O convinced our purchase dpt to buy some "trials licenses".

Never seen so much crap, still waiting to start up some services after 3 months. I have suggested to my management to simply forget about this useless crap, but it seems it's not possible unless you want to pay big money after an audit. Well conduct business big O, congrats.

We are a sales and marketing company. If you havent figured that yet, not sure if you belong here.

Just a reflection of one of the few things Oracle is still halfway good at -- lying and manipulating. It's all about technicalities.

They are hiring as much cheap labor as they can (especially college grads and expanding in India), so the statement has some truth to it. What they fail to mention is how many people they are laying off, how they are carefully avoiding any public WARN notices and how many experienced employees are heading for the door. They also aren't talking about how their Cloud "revenues" are heavily based on selling Cloud credits that customers don't use or are really on-premise hardware that has been labeled as "Cloud".

It's pure marketing.

Just like the MH quote awhile back about embedding AI in everything... and the other crap about how software was working hand-in-hand with hardware.... and the other crap about how there weren't going to be any layoffs. Just another lie.

How stupid do they think their customers are?

Clever bastards. PR spin while the do the opposite lay off all the talented and experienced engineers and hire a bunch of numb nuts Millenials who don't have any knowledge about anything or experience. They're all just looking to hook up with one another when the workday is over .

Oracle Cloud is just joke ，no company purchase it here

Smoke and mirrors to make it appear that business is booming. It isn't.