Team leader is a UT graduate too. In the last ROM, none in that group were let go...
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you can count 5? 6? phd interns going to ETC this summer for teams with "Simulation" in their team name. We're alpha-ing people from ETC so how can hiring interns be justified? Also begs the question, are we even going to be able to hire this many kids in the coming years? Hiring someone as an intern implies prospect for full time employment after graduation, so isn't it irresponsible if you take on interns knowing those hiring prospects within ETC are slim to none.
Also, on that post about phd's pushing buttons achieving billability, it's literally laughable that there are so many simulation teams that they resort to naming them Team 1, Team 2, Team 3, Team 4! Armies of button pushers and what do they have to show for all the srtd $$$ they've spent on multi-year old pet projects. step aside, eor mafia. make room for the stanford simulation mafia
Billable burden from one Chevron opco to another is a complete waste of time, effort and money. It's a zero sum game.
Great point Jeof - we shouldn't single out the CEOR group. The entire ior/eor/tru group are nothing but billable burden to the Opco's. A luxury when oil is $100/bbl, at $42 - a criminal waste of resources.
It's obvious someone has an very specific axe to grind with this one ceor team. you can tell by the wording in the previous post that this person keeps bringing the attention back to the 'ceor team', not the ior/eor/tru unit, not the multiple teams that do work related to ceor.
Chemical EOR projects are certainly not a focus for the US fields- there are more unconventional opportunities (with better economics) than capital. Can non-US projects justify keeping this EOR team intact?
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Great string of questions here. Kevin? Ross? Jitendra? Can any of you justify this?
ETC is supposed to be our box of special tools, deployable anywhere at anytime. Its concept is a great one, except for half the tools in the box are outdated and most of the other half are broken. It's time to get rid of ETC or rebuild it completely from scratch.
nothing but butthurt comments...if you don't like company's policies just leave take your high school diploma and go somewhere else...f--- trumpf anyways
ceor is a inflated unicorn touting r2r2p replacement but nothing gets deployed because of incompetent execution like gorgon. ceor separations group that show off a savings of $100 million/week water solution to a problem that they created in the first place. even worse than these chemistry groups are the even more numerous, entire units in ETC dedicated to simulation, pushing buttons based on theoretical equations and no actual operating experience. cliche joke how many phd's does it take to change a light bulb but instead of a light bulb it is a simulation button. 200% billability is achievable when you push two buttons and charge for the run time of both buttons. ETC is a joke. ETC is analogous to the diversity touting, liberal left, disgraced HRC and Biraq Obama party, drafting wasteful expensive pipedream programs that put the US in a deficit. Need someone like Trump clean out. Make Chevron Great Again
two members of the frat-group were let go from the group in Alpha 2.0. Better any of them than me. layers upon layers of middle men project managers who sit in their ivory towers and bog down any progress of
uols, the term is not a praise, but it has a completely different meaning - you use it for someone who gets offended easily. As for the origin of a term - not so long ago parents were disciplining a children by spanking their buttocks.
I would like to respond to the two children in here using the following tag, LBiJ2Hq-3f1B and LBiJ2Hq-1w1. I find it humorous that you have to use a reference to homosexual activity with the term "butt-hurt". In my years of life the one that chooses to use terms like that are usually the ones with first hand experience. So have you been butt-hurt by these comments because you are tough behind the infamous internet guardian, I doubt if these sites were public you would say something like that. CEOR group is a smoke and mirror group, hiding behind "IP" protection because they are using work that was done years ago by most of the industry and they realize that EOR was nothing but an "anchor" and closely associated with excess spending on the same level as the car industry wasted on the concept cars that never made it to production. In the last three years outside of one retiree the group has not had on of the frat-house group laid-off, moved to another group and then moved back. To sum it up, RFCU management, both unit level and team level is only concerned with building a empire that does half-a-- work and who's career they railroad by lying. They waste money and they never take responsibility for their screw ups until forced to and then they will squirm their way out that.
Diversity is seriously overrated.
Never heard of a local based major office trying to hire mostly qualified local graduates.. Who'da thunk that? On the other hand, there's nothing like some diversity in the South. You, know, More Mexicans. Not that diversity adds anything of value to any country or corporation, it never has in history. Except of course, to promote the self-gratification and pseudo-compassion of hypocritical liberal elite simpletons who's kids go to white private schools while the brown people mow their lawns......
@gbxo: That certain state is located among 49 other states with dozens of top engineering schools and that same company hires not only from those other states, but also from all over the world and from world class engineering schools (not like RFCU/EOR unit) ... these are the current facts IMHO but who knows, in a couple of years that same company might hire ALL of its employees from within the border walls of Texas and only the ones with a Southern accent... who cares about diversity anymore. Let's drink to that LMAO
Wow, an Engineering based company with a major office located in a certain state hires a lot of graduates from a major Engineering University in that same state who were all taught by the same engineering professor, who's class you needed to take to graduate!!! Man, there must be some conspiracy here!!! LMAO!
And notice how if any of the ETC Managers are mentioned just by initials in these threads, the post is gone in a matter of hours. They must have a team monitoring this full time. Guess things are hitting too close for their comfort.
Five people probably laid claim to the same $100 mln on their PMP. Then their supervisor took credit for $500 mln in profits. Bam, there's an extra billion for the dividend.
if you have a real problem you should email siegele, call the hotline, call HR. there's no use preaching to the choir on a site like this
@7uos so the people that moved were unqualified? And then we let go qualified individuals? Hmm
Must have. Was there
$100 million!!! Wow. I missed that write-up in the Chevron news.
Guess when you make the bu $100 million they tend to keep you around a while
@3flb: FALSE! Three members from this team were moved to another group during Alpha at the expense of three qualified professionals getting the axe, then were transferred back to their original team. People were notified last week of the cuts coming to the RPE Unit of ETC - again this team was not touched.
Professor Pope would not be proud.
Chemical EOR was not economic even when we had $90+ oil price. I'd be interested to see the achievements of that unit over the past 10 years... they have spent and charged the BUs millions of dollars without a single successful project. They're all better off if they go back to UT and work under that same professor. That way they can at lease boast about their scientific publications while feeding their big egos ....
51ux, so let's keep spending on a technology that has a one-in-a-billion chance of ever making money? Take an economics class, or two.
@5rgr genius! Because we can just flip a switch and begin selling oil from a chemical eor project today!
I don't see much future for chemical EOR projects at these oil prices.
At least they are not all from Bangalore University.
OP doesn't know what they are talking about. Obviously just a butthurt loser. The "team" to which they are referring underwent serious cuts in Alpha and are presently undergoing more cuts.
The bigger your knee calluses, the better!
Hook 'em horns
I've always wondered why the A&M grads in Chevron are so jealous of the Longhorn grads. Seems like we have more worker bee Aggies and management Longhorns. Could that be why?
Good question! Maybe because the supervisor is a PhD UT grad under the same professor... Wink wink and he runs that whole building like a mafia... Whoever is not with him goes out the door
I have rotated between ETC and different BUs multiple times over my 20+ years with Chevron (and came in the door originally already a SME). I agree that the business model for ETC has not always been clear and has fluctuated over time. A group of SMEs holding BU best practices, fundamental researchers developing next gen technology, or a gulag of workers ready to jump into any temporarily breach when a BU needs to rapidly ramp up development of an asset. Your call. Different folks it ETC fit different definitions: Some are so specialized they can not move between these roles, others are more flexible. During the boom times we were shifting more toward the breach filler model, after the layoffs we have moved a bit back toward an expert group, but the mix changes with the BU work load coming in the door and research moneys available from corporate. I will say that many a Ph.D pulled into ETC straight out of school as a first step on their Horizon rotations cry when forced to rotate out to a BU, but then never appear interested in returning when their rotations are over, probably because in many cases work-life balance expectations tend to be a bit more reasonable in a BU. Your mileage may vary.
Agree with you, qss. Too much emphasis on PhD degrees in ETC. These PhD employees are certainly not stupid people, but don't automatically think that makes them all the smartest folks we have. I value both academics and experience, but clearly have more confidence and bank more on our employees with experience. #TheProofIsInThePutting.
Any: There are times when you need a PHD; for example when trying g to develop the next gasoline additive. However, most of the time we just need some good experienced competent engineers or geo's. Too much focus on acedemics in ETC.