Thread regarding Hewlett Packard Enterprise (HPE) layoffs

Eagerly awaiting for your 1.7% performance bonus and 0.6% salary increase?

That was exactly my last bonus and salary increase before I was laid off in January of this year (after 18 years working with HP/HPE in Houston). In 2001, my base salary was 91K, and in January of 2016, it was 94.5K... I guess I don't need to say anything else... I started with Dell (Houston) on May of this year with a base salary of 117K (in basically the same role). In less than 5 months I got a salary "increase" of $22.5K... I wasted so much time (and lost so much money) by staying with HPE for so long. What is your story? What % was your last performance bonus in HPE? Salary increase?

You really need to ask yourself why are you still wasting your time there... Unless you are planning retirement in the next 2-3 years, you are probably losing tons of money like I did.

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Post ID: @OP+KtpxeLr

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I heard no raises and a tiny raise pool. I left HPE on my own before I was WFR'd and got a 35% raise at another company without even doing any negotiation. Do yourself a favor and look for another job while you are waiting to be WFR'd (and you will be unless you are highly underpaid and then they will use you until the company goes under) With the benefit costs going up in 2017 most of you are making far less then you were a year ago. It was a hard decision to leave after 20 years but best decision I ever made. Nice to work with new co-workers that are not sad and depressed about their company everyday too.

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Post ID: @8bbp+KtpxeLr

@2gcc, yes, budgets are cascading/available. My budget this year for both salary and bonus is 60% of last year. I'm in software.

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Post ID: @2txc+KtpxeLr

@2fdo, are they cascading the budgets already? I'm a L5 Manager, and I haven't been cascaded the numbers for my team yet. In which Org you are? Unfortunately, i know I won't have good news for them, but at least I would like to provide them with a high-level understanding of what to expect. I've heard some teams will have zero budget for bonuses or increases (such as Networking). Thanks.

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Post ID: @2ggc+KtpxeLr

1.4% budget for base salary increases, for high performers! This is an invitation for my team to seek employment elsewhere, where they will be valued and compensated fairly for their contributions.

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Post ID: @2fdo+KtpxeLr

@2cpw: Take your lame argument some place else. Clearly you are an HR or a crony of management. You and the likes of you have always enjoyed a overly generous compensation and raises. You can't hide the facts about the huge compensation doled out to top echelons and their cronies even during the so called difficult years at HP. So, stop preaching and go away. This forum is meant for the common people whose lives have been destroyed by HP.

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Post ID: @2zjn+KtpxeLr

@2cpw... Either you are being ironic, or you are part of HR. Your post sounds like anti-Union propaganda of the 70s. Be careful with drinking too much Kool-Aid, dude...

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Post ID: @2azn+KtpxeLr

Each year, I simply assume there'll be no bonus and salary increase. If they happen - the Company doesn't have any obligation with one or the other - then I'm grateful, regardless of the number. in your employee contract there's NOTHING that requires HPE to pay you a bonus or increase your salary each year. They do it in good faith, and we should all be more grateful of having a job in this legendary Company.

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Post ID: @2cpw+KtpxeLr

After today's announcement I don't think anyone would even get that 1.7% performance bonus and 0.6% salary increase... We did a really poor job out there...

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Post ID: @2qmu+KtpxeLr

Houston is actually a great place to live, but... I would consider anything related to the IT Industry high risk (or any manufacturing - regardless of the Industry - that would make sense to send to Mexico or abroad for tax evasion purposes. (I meant to say, tax advantage, sorry...) I wouldn't recommend pursuing jobs with manufacturers which core products are mid-high volume, either with low margins OR are highly profitable, and with a low cost to manufacture (i.e. pharma, hp printers, etc.). Those kind of products/jobs are candy for being send anywhere, but the US.

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Post ID: @1wef+KtpxeLr

I must've picked the wrong place to live.

The cost of living here is twice as much as Houston and our salaries are about the same as yours.

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Post ID: @1sfs+KtpxeLr

Looking at it from the outside it's frustrating to see how some people would be more than happy getting a lame 2% bonus vs. getting what they really deserve by getting a job anywhere else. Evidently, HPE has done a great job brainwashing people in FUD.

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Post ID: @utp+KtpxeLr

There are not that many jobs available at Dell in Houston, dude. Consider yourself lucky. Most of us laid off recently will most probably need to relocate. I bet you were were connected there for getting that job (even get invited to an interview). I've been trying to get interviewed there for a while now, and nothing...

https://jobs.dell.com/search-jobs/Houston%2C%20TX/375/4/6252001-4736286-4696376-4699066/29x76328/-95x36327/50/2

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Post ID: @rfd+KtpxeLr

Well... It looks like our HR "friends" are visiting us again to let us know how fortunate we are of having a job at HPE... They would prefer us to kiss the feet of our Masters, but oh well... As long as we at least kneel, they're fine. Thanks for putting food on my table every day, almighty Granny Meg!

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Post ID: @xro+KtpxeLr

Whatever... I'm with @cul. Whatever they give me will be more than nothing, and I'll enjoy spending it as soon as I get it.

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Post ID: @nva+KtpxeLr

@cul... I see me in you two years ago... It's not until you are out that you realize that begging for a 1.5% performance bonus or a less-than-one percent salary increase is NOT what you deserve. If you have been with HPE in the same job for at least 3 years, it's not uncommon at all to get at least a 10-15% salary base increase just by getting another job out there (and that is even without negotiating the salary - simply the initial offer). Wake up, my friend! Don't let their Kool-Aid interfere with the reality in front of you.

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Post ID: @oyq+KtpxeLr

The sad thing is that I'm "eagerly awaiting" for that 1.5-2.5% bonus. Better something than nothing... Can't wait for HPE to communicate Q4 results tomorrow.

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Post ID: @cul+KtpxeLr

It's common knowledge for us here in Houston that Dell is paying more than HPE (and are very eager to recruit HPE employees, especially at levels 4-5 coming from Sales and Business Planning). Do yourself a big favor and visit their career web site. You won't regret it... I'm on my fourth round of interviews, and I'm crossing my fingers... If I get an offer, I'm out of here in two business weeks (or less, if I can).

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Post ID: @yug+KtpxeLr

1.7% performance bonus? Wow, you should be really good at your job (and I'm not saying this ironically). I don't work for HPE (but HPI in San Diego), and I haven't seen a performance bonus in the last two years (fully meeting the expectations). Both HPI & HPE are ratholes...

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Post ID: @tki+KtpxeLr

My last "real" salary increase was in 1999. After that, I would be ashamed of calling them "increases". In terms of performance bonuses, the last one I got that was "decent" was in 2011, and it was around 6%. After that, they've been between 1.5-2.5%.

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Post ID: @hov+KtpxeLr

OK - I wondered if you were being serious. There are very few HPE techies in the UK earning in the region of £75k. Senior Managers and Sales guys maybe but not techies. Just looked up the average IT salary in the US and in 2012 it was $86k. Just did the same google search for average UK IT salary and it's £28k. So there is clearly a huge disparity in wages between US and UK. Here if you get paid £50k you are considered a high earner. SO that just goes to back up my point about why cheap-shore is killing us all

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Post ID: @gza+KtpxeLr

Whenever I got raises at HP in my 14 years there (if at all), they were always 1%. The only time I got a substantial raise was when I was considering taking a job in Georgia, and HP matched the offer. Other than that.... pfffft

I just left the company earlier this year, and walked in my new company making 10% more than I was at HPE. Then, after only 3 months in, I got a raise and can look forward to annual increases like clockwork with no B.S.

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Post ID: @vql+KtpxeLr

@jba, if Dell was willing to pay $22.5K more it's because (and this is an assumption), the OP has a valuable skill set. If after 18 years of experience, you earn less than £75k in GBP, you either have a role/skills easy to replace or your are really underpaid. You might do yourself a big favor by exploring jobs with other Companies. And... If by any chance you are someone from HR lurking on this site... It didn't work, dude... We know well what you are trying to do... It hasn't been the first time management tries to minimize the posts here. There IS life after HPE. Don't be scared, people... They are feeling the pain of the talent migration and they use these type of tactics to foster FUD (fear, uncertainty, and doubt). It's ok when they kick out people, but it's not ok for them when it's you the one that send them to h--l.

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Post ID: @pte+KtpxeLr

A salary of $95k equates to about £75k in GBP. I can assure you that an engineer in the UK is lucky to be earning half of that. And we are considered a "high cost" location.

Pretty obvious why the company can't afford to keep people on that sort of salary. They can hire 5 or more people in "low cost" locations for the same cost

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