Thread regarding Hewlett Packard Enterprise (HPE) layoffs

3npi. "HPE should be focussing on its people and their skills to generate value. Instead it focusses on finding as many ways as possible to prevent us from interacting with customers."

Bingo.

It started with extremely low comp: I found out that I was at 32nd percentile for my geographic region (which, by the way, I was supposed to live in because the client was nearby), and when I first came on board, HP balked even at paying that. (HP wanted to pay much much lower.)

That should have been a red flag for me...now I know why HP/HPE likes hiring early career (or otherwise younger) folks. Those folks don't know any better. I certainly didn't. I was dazzled by the HP name.

Then came an education assistance policy designed to be so difficult to get that no one could reasonably get it. And zero dollars for training or education - our client had to pay for training. I worked a second job to pay for my own education and training.

Then came the whole "leveraged delivery" and "industrialized delivery center" thing. (AKA we are gonna work you to death like a $5 street h--ker.)

Frankly, there is no focus on people, which is ironic considering that without its people, HPE is nothing. And, when I say people, I mean the people who are making the products and delivering the services, or, in MBA jargon, the value, not the retarded management that's in way over its head. The value that customers pay up for. Not the BS that Meg et al. come up with to justify their obscene comp packages.

Hello all. I'm both @jhq and @1vff... This is how it ended... It was impossible to end in good terms with that @sshole, so I've just ended my exit interview with HR a few minutes ago (9/9/16). I'm done... I emphasized to HR several times that I tried to give the 2 weeks, but his attitude made it impossible. I didn't need to go through all those humiliations. I just wanted to stop by to wish you all the best, and reinforce that you don't need to go through all this crap. Best of luck!

If HPE Software came with a "help our fellow HPE unit" discount, it might not be so bad... but it never does. If anything, HPE software resold by another unit usually comes at a ridiculous premium (same goes for services like web and database hosting). We get GOUGED with any intra-departmental purchasing. This is part of the nonsense that is burying the Hewlett-Packard name.

HPE customers are willing to pay well for services, but lately, HPE has been engaged in bait-and-switch tactics to increase the already high margin markups on engineering rates with sub-standard, inexperienced third-world labor. How upper management fails to recognize this is beyond me. Maybe it just boils down to Meg and her pals buying as much time as possible to sell everything off and ride their golden parachutes into their bails of money after HP and HPE stock hits the penny stock valuation.

Absolutely spot on 3-ccn.

HP as a whole is a complete arse of a Company. Their attitude that says you have to sell HP products whether they are a bag of sh-- or not is exactly what destroyed the EDS side of the business. Hardware and (to a lesser extent) software are commodity items, to fail to recognise that is suicide. To believe that just because it has an HP badge it's better is at best naive, at worst stupid.

HPE should be focussing on its people and their skills to generate value. Instead it focusses on finding as many ways as possible to prevent us from interacting with customers.

It's common knowledge that HPE has been losing important new and existing contracts renewals lately. No surprise there... Ask the customers about what they think about HPE... The common theme is: "HPE is too expensive, and try to force us to their standard solutions, instead of providing solutions for our business needs. It's difficult to do business with them."

@2lyu. Seriously? HPE had a shot and blew it. You make it sound like it was a "privilege" to do business with HPE. If that's the intent, better get off that high horse and take a reality check.

I am very pleased with how the OP has handled the situation and got success. But he is not justifying his current job and the role he is given. Personnel revenges against a supplier and feeling very proud doesn't reflect any work ethic. Shame on your current boss and company for spoiling a suppliers time and resources.

Screw PHBs at all levels, especially the ones with MBAs...and screw them HARD. Their job is to manage but more often than not all they do is screw around, lord over their direct reports, create needless bureaucracy, and run the company into the ground.

@1gve made a good point... You should at least consider it. Nine more days of pay won't hurt.

It's tough for everyone... Remember that we Managers are employees as well. He definitively didn't manage it well, but I can understand his frustration. It's not your fault or problem, though. It is now HIS problem, and he needs to figure out how to manage it. I wouldn't recommend "burning that bridge". If you have patience, and manage this well, it would only require 9 PAID extra working days for you to have potential references for years to come. I think it's worth the patience and investment. But of course... Now you are the boss... It's your decision.

Very inspiring. I can't wait for my opportunity to come to fire HPE as well.

Way to go, @1vff! Congratulations!!! What an @ss... Neither him or HPE deserve the two weeks. F@ck them! Go straight to HR on Tuesday and terminate them (instead of they terminating you). Once again, congrats!!! A couple of ideas that might make your experience even more satisfying... http://www.socialtalent.co/blog/8-spectacular-ways-people-quit-jobs

@1ham - He didn't take it well... His first reaction was to tell me "the problem I have created", and how difficult it was going to be for him to get a req approved in Q4. He even told me... "How could you have done this to me and the team." Needless to say, I was shocked. I have no idea what he was thinking, but he told me that I needed to wait until he has a replacement... (to which I laughed, making things worse). When he "allowed" me to talk, I simply told him that I could give him until the 16th, and he basically left me there, talking to myself. After discussing the whole thing with my husband last night, he told me I don't need to go through that crap, and he is completely right, so I'm taking a sick day today. I'm seriously considering going straight to HR on Tuesday for the termination. The rules of the game have changed. Now, I decide... I don't give a crap burning that bridge. Who's the boss now?

@jhq - How did the conversation go?

@JamDES3... I LOVED the way you ended your post... Timing couldn't have been better! I just got a written offer from another Company early this morning, and in exactly 25 mins I'll have an ad hoc meeting with my boss to give my two weeks notice... I guess I should have waited until tomorrow Friday, to make it more like "the HPE way", but my excitement is so big, that I simply can't wait... HPE... YOU ARE FIRED!

If I get kicked out from here before leaving on my own terms, I swear my personal "standards of business counduct" would be very different than yours.

Be honest... No need to try to sound fair or being a good guy. You enjoyed f them hard! Good for you!

It looks like your experience is far from being uncommon. It's like the 3rd or 4th time I've read similar stories the last couple of months from ex-employees now having the customers' hat on. I agree with you... We live in a small world. I'm glad that you and your family are doing well now. Your description of how your wife reacted really touched me, as I lived something similar, and it brought a lot of sad memories back.