The company is moving further and further away from the remote workers it stranded when it closed all the call centers. More work is being shifted offshore every day. Most technical jobs are now in India only. For months you've had to know the secret passphrase in order to find any open internal Jobs in Workday that were even potentially 'remote eligible', of which there are zero current internal open job postings that are remote eligible. Every time the question comes up in a leadership webcast the answer seems to be you have to be near a hub, even if it means relocating (without assistance of course). If you're fully remote with Verizon better be updating those resumes.
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I have been remote working and producing since 2003 and still here. Remote work isn't going away. While some will be let go due to low performance, that has nothing to do with eliminating remote working. Plenty of executives are also remote work. Now if you're at the bottom and doing bare minimum, believe me, someone is noticing even though you think they are not.
@1juk Well said
Next rif will probably still have vsp terms to some extent. Orgs or team defined. It’s coming, they’re not done.
Check back 18mo. Let’s see who’s running the show if FTR merger happens
Remote work is used as a scapegoat for poor leadership and decision making that resulted in the worsening company performance. Unfortunately, RTO is not going to move the needle.
Well since both potus candidates have been giving lip service to bringing jobs back to America, (only one actually managed to do it, when the corp tax was lowered)... You guys might want to pay attention that only one of the two, has actually, included not providing tax breaks or fed funds to companies that transfer work to offshore "call centers". And that person is NOT the one currently hiding somewhere, “studying” for a debate. If worried about more work going to India, maybe vote accordingly. Han's will certainly be supporting the side that allows him to keep transferring work... Plus, he wants to keep getting Atta'Boys for going green, & DEI hires... Just food for thought, because sometimes who you pick, can actually affect your job.
I am hybrid worker, I don't mind going in to the office for a reason. I don't understand the obsession with RTO. GIve it a rest. The problem for me is when I do go into the office nobody I work with is there. I sit by myself all day, then leave. I am spending money on gas, and insurance, wear and tear on my vehicle for really no reason. So, it is what it is, I don't mind if its has even a minor justification. But that is not the case. If the idea is RTO then stop hiring the team members in different states. In my case, I am having to absorb the wasted time and money and this adds absolutely no value to the company, if that is the idea.
@dyb+1unPeQhj to tag onto this thought
I don't know why @sey+1unPeQhj thinks Vz is moving away from remote work. I've been working remotely for over 20 years. All depends on your job function, productivity and what org you are in. Most of my org is in a different state, so what's the point of going into an office?
I hear the next RIF is coming Oct. 3.
Verizon should fully RTO, and those that give a problem, rif them. I’m sure you’ll be surprised on how many people won’t get off their a-s to goto work like there were originally hired to do.
There are many work groups supporting various wireline and wireless services today that are full time remote positions. From ops, network, sales, and IT.
"Remote work has nothing to do with outsourcing or off shoring." That really wasn't the point but it is part of the equation... especially considering that most Remote workers at Verizon today used to work out of one of the now closed CS Contact centers, and mostch most of that work has already been sent offshore. The bigger point is that Verizon is moving away from Remote work entirely and if you're remote... best get ready or be willing to relo. But I agree with your point that 30 year careers at VZ are largely a thing of the past.
Remote work has nothing to do with outsourcing or off shoring. Unless your job is boots on the ground or c-suite, it is subject to either, whether you are sitting in an office or at home. This include all technical, finance, hr, customer service, sales, engineering, operations, and any other back office function you can think of. Don't delude yourself. There will be no more 30 year careers here unless you are installing/repairing/building and are protected by a contract that has job security specified. And when they can figure out how to get around that with contractors, they will.
Can you be a little more specific? What exactly in the OP is not accurate? Maybe there is not a specific date or plan to RIF remote workers yet.. but if you can't see the writing on the wall you aren't paying attention or perhaps are in denial. Best thing remote workers who aren't able to relo on their own dime can hope for in the long term is a VSP offer instead of a straight riff
Not true. Close thread!