Thread regarding Bank of New York Mellon Corp. layoffs

I'm so tired of outsourcing

They keep pushing to replace us with cheaper, outside teams who clearly don't know our systems. Now it takes three of them to do one job, and everything is still falling behind. I am so frustrated that management thinks this is a real solution. All it does is create more mess for us to fix later.


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@wm There you go again. When you fail at all else and look foolish, just pull the racism card out of your behind. As for making America great again, it is starting to be reformed with H1B’s and Us based companies that are hurting America with skirting valid hiring practices. Your days are numbered.

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@wm Trump already has. Now for him to put down the hammer on the offshoring of our jobs and it’ll be amazing

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@rf
LOL truth hurts you doesn’t it Rishi?
Your rant describes BNY offshore perfectly.
All the talent, logic, infrastructure, technology, coding platforms, database technology were developed in the US. You are low cost drivers, entry level copycats, Id--t savants, apers, mimics, imitators. Take your pick. You are just cheap tools that are low cost, very low tax, no benefits needed. If it wasn’t for the US and UK, you would be little more than a beast of burden. As a parasitic community, you should be worried what’s next in terms of AI and quantum computing. Not to mention other, better low cost obsequious developing nations that are becoming tech center options.

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@mh oh please, please tell me what do you consider as a talent in the US... Really can't wait.... Neverending escalations, lazy people, no documentation, meeting all day long and clapping to RV

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Post ID: @rf+1k7yc7yy2

The Offshore people used as filler here cannot be considered ‘talent’. Talent means an innate ability, a superior skill. These offshore resources are 3rd rate and require constant handholding. The drive everything through chats or emails. That’s what’s tiresome.

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Post ID: @mh+1k7yc7yy2

@b0 here here to firing more directors.

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Post ID: @f1+1k7yc7yy2

@b0+1k7yc7yy2 Everything you are saying is wrong and even my offshore counterparts have admitted it to me. They keep complaining about how knowledge isn’t shared there. Also they didn’t move it to India because it was a mess in the US because India would improve it. That’s a complete lie or you are too new to know where it started. In the US we had to and continue to handhold everything. We had to come up with ways to get our tasks done faster and with less thinking (so more macros) before passing it off. Now if tasks don’t fit a certain path on a flow chart and something is happening outside the norm no one over there can figure out what to do. They have to rely on US teams to walk them through it. It’s sad. Offshore managers can’t help their teams. Seems their only function is to watch the staff.

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It’s unfortunate but it is what it is. I’ve been dealing with it too for a long time. I keep getting frustrated too. They keep shifting roles. No one properly trains. The message I keep getting is it is what it is. If something goes wrong it’s not on us. It’s on the teams it shifted to. So basically you have to just let it break. At BNY nothing is taken seriously until things break and it needs to break so often the client notices otherwise no one cares.

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Absolutely not. Let’s take the access hub 2.0 rollout for instance. That entire system needs a code rewrite. In addition to a horrendous UX, requests now go into the abyss known as India where there is almost no transparency into who is assigned and complete lack of ownership. I’ve had to submit the same requests 3 or more times to actually be processed correctly because management like Robin can only track widgets, meaning that as long as India marks a request complete in a certain timeframe then they are meeting or surpassing metrics. However, provisioning is almost never done correctly so while it looks like India is handling a large volume, it’s really that the same request must be submitted several times because India does not handle it correctly the first time.

That’s only one example of a process that is now broken because it was offshored.

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Post ID: @bk+1k7yc7yy2

@b0 sorry but I disagree with some of those points. In Europe - Ireland specifically- we did our jobs damn well. There was transparency. It wasnt a mess or chaotic it was well run. Our counterpart in India would not think for themselves if something outside of the norm happened. Wouldn't make decisions. And I understand that was protocol but some common sense is needed.
More fool you if you're working a 9am-11pm. That company dont care that youre busting your butt doing the job. Do your hours, do your job well within those hours but once 5pm comes log off. If enough people did that the company would get additional staff. They wouldn't let you away with stealing their time, why are you letting them away with stealing yours?
Now they're closing 2 great offices in Ireland that have terrific and very good and loyal people working for them. I hope all of this bites Robin on the as5

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Post ID: @b2+1k7yc7yy2

@b0 done well? Very entertaining. None of you can do the work even when spelled out nice try

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Post ID: @b1+1k7yc7yy2

Few words about outsourcing - from the outsourcing side. They've decided to move some of the processes here, because when it was in the US, it was messed, chaotic, under backlog, not transparent, distracted, missing documentation, etc. When they've moved it here, finally the job is done and is done well. It's delivered and organized.
So not only a low cost was the reason of outsourcing .

And now RIFs are everywhere, trust me. Even in outscored locations. They want us to deliver MORE tasks, with LESS people.

We feel for colleagues, who lose jobs. Many great people lost it in many locations We know that every day can be our last day

And that's pi----g me off... Because we really do our job, I would say 9-5 but now it's more like 9-11(pm), and there is no support from the leadership

Now, hear me out - we don't need "well paid" directors who DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING but abusing their position, they are useless, and not needed. Fire 20% of higher leaders and hire specialists to do the job. That should work imo, why they don't see it...

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Post ID: @b0+1k7yc7yy2

@a2
Good post and the only one’s down voting it are India people and America hating leftists. We definitely need to ramp up American worker protections for companies that are based in the USA. With Robin here, you would think this is an Indian and Polish conglomerate. Laws and policies are antiquated and from before 1976. Times have changed and people like Robin are using these antiquated rules against us. You have an office in the US? Well then you hire Americans. And if you cant you need permission from the cities and States you are based in. If you can but choose cheap, then you pay taxes, face levies and surcharges and you are responsible for supporting Americans that you displace . We need true reporting and transparency on this. Robin and his ilk is using employment laws more than adhereing to their spirit. It’s going to be real amusing when Americans cannot get professional jobs and live poorly while be counting as employed at some part time or menial jobs. As for AI, even India is already feeling the pain. So just think what they have in store for American workers. I am glad I’m not 25 anymore.

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Agree and nobody has an issue with this. And the forced ratings continue to happen to get rid of us and give our jobs to them. Our govt needs to step in and shut this down along with capping how much AI a company is allowed to use. Imagine how many of us will be without jobs in the next couple years because of this corp greed bs

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