At What age does your potential stop changing? For example, can potential still increase or decrease (based on performance) after you’re 40 or 50?
Who has the authority to change it? Your supervisor, manager or S&D?
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@qy potential is locked in. No more upwards movement. Best you can do is maintain at current level if not a HiPo.
@rn more like 99.9%. By the time you are 50 there is only downward movement. If you have not achieved at least CL29 by then, you're cooked and NSI is around the corner.
If you're over 50 you're at your potential. They say they manage it to 65 but for 99% over 50 yo is the cl you'll retire at.
Explain something, the engineer above 50, and training people; its potencialgone?
Such a bs process before anyone has actually demonstrated competence. It’s just a gigantic bias.
Best way to be hipo as an experienced hire is to come in with completely irrelevant experience like marketing booze or burning through cash playing with self driving cars. The bigger the failure the better as long as you presided over that failure. Lots of short tenure gigs on your CV also helps.
Best way to be hipo as an experienced hire is to come in straight at the top. Su-ks for all those hipos that have slugged it out within xom to just be skipped over by someone from the outside.
@k9 it is rare but still seems possible.
What is the definition of high potential strictly speaking though? Someone having a sponsor? or the ratings protection?or something else?
Experienced hires and those moving into the company through acquisitions rarely are given a high potential. Very rare. Also as you age your potential almost always drops.
Your supervisor can see ultimate potential in career connect.
Your ultimate potential is set by your supervisors manager or higher manager. Each level of management can only set it so high so to have a truely high potential someone high in the org with a high CL has to advocate for you.
@gm who hired you?
@gm the math is not mathing here
@gm Ah yes. The rare 50 year old CL 50. Only 10 CLs higher than our CEO.
30 before 30
I once was told that if you are a true hiPo, your age and potential should match, after you turned 30
These days Potential means nothing.
@OP A better question would be at what age do you begin to have trouble with learning new skills, and adapting to workforce changes and technological disruption? Seems to me to be around late 40s for most men. A little later (maybe early 50s) for most women.
The U.S. is the only place I’ve ever been where it’s taboo to point out that certain aspects of performance drop off steadily for most people as they age.
@c8 what happens after the sponsor leaves or retires then ?
If you do not get above CL29 potential by 45yrs old you are cooked. You could possibly get 34CL potential but most likely 31pot at best. Then when you get one Good rank you move back down to CL29 if you are an IC.
It’s more about sponsor than potential
I would say depends on your politics or lack of. If you’re working here in the states get it together and leave by 2028.
Do managers track your potential in careerconnect ?
Possibly can go up but much more likely to go down. Justification for hipo is high now because they need to adjust to high cl job decreases.
Decrease: always
Increase: very unlikely after 40. Potential >36 might already be out of reach after age 35 if you were not on track.
@OP 35