This is prolly a d-mb question and might ruffle some feathers but, shouldn't HPE be a major cloud player with AWS, Google, and Microsoft? Was HPE not positioned to compete with those companies?
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HP/HPE put a significant amount of resources into HPE Cloud back when Meg Whitman was CEO and lured some competent talent, too. Developers were heavily focused on OpenStack and being part of the opensource community. They were "special" in that they had a blank check to get what they needed without the usual bureaucracy everyone else had to deal with. Want to use a Macbook instead of an HP laptop? No problem. Remote work? No problem.
But Meg was too impatient with it not matching AWS/Azure/GCP and eventually gave up the cloud business and most of the talent left. What was left was sold to SuSE and eventually it died.
The Oracle cloud business under Mark Hurd never gave up and even though he's passed on, they now have a pretty prominent AI cloud business.
@jh GreenLake is a financial solution model available for most of the HPE portfolio.
@qt What is “wokeness”? HPE is too focus on maintaining the good ole boy system. You can’t think to be at the top of your game when you lack vision and innovation with the same set of players on the board. It’s a monolithic team and organization. The best aren’t always at the top but buried either in the middle or bottom.
Neil has the vision of Helen Keller and the backbone of Gumby.
HPE is too focused on Wokeness and not real business, which is why HPE stock will never get to 40 or 50
Yep, the support on GreenLake is just terrible. The customers seem to hate it and let us know all the time.
GreenLake is a joke. HPE sells the customer hardware supported by the cheapest 3rd party CE'S. Then all the Firmware, OS, Esxi, Drivers and storage is managed with Oneview out of India.
Surprise Surprise it doesn't work very well. They throw Asm's from Mexico in the mix and have maybe a US based ADM and MSM thrown into the mix to provide lies and cover for the shoddy support. You can sign up for a free Aws or Azure account and see how fast you can deploy resources anywhere in the world in hours. The AWS enterprise support is as good as HP's support was in the late 90's early 2000's before it was all sent to India.
@kn Well when I supported it that's the way it worked. Maybe you can elaborate..?
@jh Eh, that's not how Greenlake works.
Greenlake is not the Cloud, it's sort of a local Cloud. Your IT buys the hardware and divvies out capacity to the different groups in the organization. Then charges them for the capacity they use. It's more efficient than everyone buying their own hardware. At least that is the way it was before I volunteered to leave several years ago. In reality the model never worked very well. JMHO
Pose might have been a better word choice than identify.
Former AI Cloud Employee - who was WFR'd. Neil and Antonio did not want to commit the CAPEX needed to compete in the space (infrastructure and data center capacity). Neil stated at the last ATM in Houston he rather give CAPEX to HPEFS than infrastructure. Neil thinks the AI Cloud space is a bubble. It's hard for Antonio and Neil to see margins on HW is very small, but you start making money hand over fist, once the HW is fully paid for and your selling pure GPU/hr with services. It's to late for HPE to step into the space now. Wouldn't be surprised if Elliot spun off the HW business.
They have Greenlake, which allows them to identify as a major cloud provider.
They tried it once. It failed. They shut it down. It failed because most of the support behind it was off-shored, and they lost a bunch of critical customer data in multiple security breaches.
HPE is a joke
I was at a big 4 advisory firm leading our cloud efforts around 2010 and HPE wasn't even an afterthought in cloud. They offered no substance, only promises that were generations behind the leaders. That they did provide though was tons of free gear and services if we'd use it for our lab and be named in a joint press release. I said no, we didn't need a boat anchor when we were talking to much more cloud savvy firms. I was overrruled by a partner who couldn't spell cloud. One of the analyst first joined us in NYC to discuss cloud and we came to the topic of our new lab. He said we could partner with just about anyone and it would make a splash, well except for HPE because they were so backwards. The partner challenged him, the analyst laughed, the lab was built, nobody cared, and it sat idle. In the meantime I departed, and cloud advisory died soon thereafter.
They tried back when the Cloud was starting to take hold and had multiple groups inside the company competing with each other. That and a bad strategy turned people off. I think it was another Palm moment.