Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

Americans are smart in IT This Indian glorification is one big lie we are all human beings no race is better to an another.

The comment above is a form of racisms. It depends on the person and their work effort and skills. Though Americans are being discriminated against and we are the minority.

The truth is that AT&T has had a lot of outages and in Middletown the population is mostly Indian on site and now they are sending the work to India. Americans are losing their jobs not because they are less skilled it is because AT&T wants to pay very cheap rates. So those who lost there jobs due to executive greed are now being offered only very low rates. Americans can not live on these rates. The truth can be found online on linked in there is a section for AT&T jobs in India. Many are in areas like AI .

Some Ai slop in some of the comments on this post. We can tell.

@qc You're asking for special treatment, my friend. In business, nationality rarely counts as merit—unless government regulations mandate it for security reasons. The reality is, America thrives on cheap labor and inexpensive goods. As long as it doesn’t directly affect your day-to-day life, you're content to ignore the bigger picture.

Let’s be honest: slavery was once legal, and many generations benefited from it, directly or indirectly. Even today, the system leans heavily on undocumented labor—Mexican workers who toil in fields, harvest produce, and support the agricultural backbone of the country. You enjoy low prices on goods made overseas, often by children working for pennies per hour, but you don't give that a second thought.

Now that your job or financial security feels threatened, suddenly it's a crisis. Welcome to corporate America—this is how it's always worked. You've just realized it a little too late.

Meanwhile, the broader economy is doing well: GDP is growing, the stock market is hitting all-time highs, unemployment is at 4%, and corporate profits are booming. If you're laid off and struggling to find work, the system hasn’t failed—you just didn’t prepare for the reality. It’s on you now.

Equal treatment is not DEI, common sense and we have a constitution to address that. Libertarians by voter numbers are a very small number, maybe you mean conservatives. Are you still talking about the discriminatory DEI? Just like affirmative action that the Supreme Court deemed discriminatory. Other countries have nothing to do what happens within US borders and their laws nor are they privileged to it’s benefits if they aren’t naturalized or citizens, period!

I was under the impression that many of you identified as libertarians—advocating for minimal government involvement in both personal lives and corporate affairs. I also thought you were opposed to DEI initiatives. Yet now, it seems there's an expectation that the government should step in to protect your jobs simply because you're citizens. What happened to the principles of individualism and personal responsibility? And are you also including naturalized citizens and those descended from immigrants in your argument for equal treatment?

It seems that many people here are suggesting that American companies are making poor decisions by replacing highly skilled domestic workers with foreign workers from a particular country, primarily because the latter are perceived as cheaper labor. The argument goes further to claim that these foreign workers are significantly underqualified, underperform, struggle with communication, and don't contribute meaningfully. Supposedly, this trend has been going on for decades.

If that were truly the case, wouldn’t hiring managers realize the issue fairly quickly—within days or weeks—and take corrective action, such as terminating underperforming employees? Instead, what we actually observe is the opposite: many of these foreign workers not only remain employed but go on to receive permanent residency and eventually citizenship.

Some of the most successful and innovative companies in the world—like Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, Meta, and Google—employ thousands of these workers and continue to grow and dominate their markets. These are not poorly run organizations. Their leadership teams are widely regarded as among the best in the world. So, either they are unaware of a massive and costly mistake, or there’s more to the story than is being claimed.

From what I can see, these foreign employees are paid competitively for their roles, just like anyone else. Clearly, I’m missing something. If hiring underqualified workers really resulted in massive financial losses, why would the most profitable and innovative companies in the world keep doing it?

I’d appreciate a logical explanation—what is the real incentive or benefit that these companies see, and how does it reconcile with their continued success?

@gq sorry sir, I was referring to private enterprises. They are governed by policies that are suitable for the owners of the company. Unlike people often believe, there should be no element of bias towards anyone. The companies fully abide by law of the land and the constitution. Hiring policies are strictly the choice of a private entity as long as they follow the law.

Not likely. That would leave Irving with fewer than 17 employees.

@gq

I don't think they get you.

Every country should do the same, support their citizens first (regardless of any DEI and based on meritocracy).

Are we now going to build companies in the US to support what? The Indian economy? Someone wrote below, not that they have a bunch of inventions or Noble prizes - they can only do SI, call centers, tech support and poor coding....

America has been always open to great immigration, what I think is happening right now is that they are bringing just anyone for cheap labor that IS BY FAR NOT BETTER THAN, just cheaper.

“ So basically you are saying, hire me because I am an American citizen (of a certainrace only btw).”

These are the Americans who founded this Republic & made it great. The preamble specifies who the Republic was founded by & for.

All Trump gotta say is, you wanna get this money for Fiber expansion, bring back American job call centers or no money! Plain n simple!

So basically you are saying, hire me because I am an American citizen (of a certainrace only btw). Everything else doesn't matter. Aren't you the same people who are whining about DEI & meritocracy? Do you realized that you're demanding for a different type DEI??

Don't hire harder working, better qualified talent from India.

I think you meant dishonest, incompetent people with completely fake credentials.

@d2

I meant my response not directly to you, but anyone that come here to make it all about this admin, my only point is that we are seeing now the manifestation of decades of this stuff.

Apologies, as I meant it in third person, but may have come across in response to your post. I think we are on the same page, actually on how this is a long trend that just got worse and worse?

@cr, they dont have to hire us, but make it damn sure to make it expensive for them not to employ us either. You mean to say, sell to Americans 100%, yet hire the world BUT THE AMERICANS? FOCK NO. and if we're all unemployed here, whos gonna patronize their damn businesses anyway? Whos gonna buy it? We all gonna have basic income for what? Existing? People wanna work here and not compete with the world for a damn job.

@d2

Running the risk to get an insult back....

We get it, you don't like Trump.

However, those of us that are NOT partisans know that this has happened for the past 50 years, INDEPENDENT from who is in charge.

Plenty of blame to go around.

My suggestion is, instead of insulting your fellow coworkers, why not recognize that we all have a problem and be nicer to each other?

Please go ahead and be mean to me, I send you a big hug anyway :-)

Nice to see an administration focused on the homeland, employment and fair trade vs. padding the global elites pockets who want slave labor and benefits. Exec packages used to be about 9x avg employees salaries 60 years ago now it’s in the hundreds of times so, cry me a river!

Tired of winning yet? Only 3.5 more years to go until the third term.

You need to understand who rules this country. Simple answer-businesses. What's their motive? To make money for this shareholders. You all want get paid the top dollar. The businesses want to minimize cost. So they send jobs overseas and hire foreigners. All types of work is sent abroad not just IT work. Finance, accounting, HR, call center, legal, engineering, manufacturing, etc.

Unless you're in the top league of your profession, it's going to be very hard to stay employed.

You all being of a certain nationality & wanting to get paid does not constitute the reason for any business to hire you.

T replaced thousands of American workers when they started to off shore two decades ago. In India they bragged that they could get 5 workers for one American Worker. I think that Trump needs to get that External Revenue Service going that he was talking so much about and find a way to bill India Telecom 7 times per Indian worker the amount in taxes that they would have received from the American worker. The federal government lost BILLIONS because of T and instead of the government going after T for the lost tax revenue, they raised American taxes every which way to Sunday. I don't care what the media says, in the last 20 years the money I now pay in taxes has almost wiped me out.

Good. Let’s see if they add some criteria to approving H1B applications and govt contracts tied to how many layoffs the company has done and how much contracting to overseas a company does. I bet if they say, oh you laid off American workers and now want to bring in offshore, denied. Want this tax incentive or govt contract, but you offshored, denied. That might change things. Growth companies don’t layoff workers, they hire them. This system has been abused too much and it needs to be right sized. Not a person on this board should be against this.

The current administration needs to challenge companies like ATT hiring in India and calling them ATT employees. This tactic misleads and we shouldn’t just follow H1B issues. We are not only employing basic IT functions and call centers partners in India, Eastern Europe and Mexico but also moving technical jobs within IT and CSO. Why would this company do this which can and will expose customers sensitive data and cause more outages. Bad for America and National security!!

T has a deep history in the India game… look at the latest internal emails. The Indians are the only ones getting promoted and hired . T will sp-t in the face of anything this administration says or any other administration. T could care less if they are a security risk or not.

Plenty of farmworker jobs in the US.

Hire mediocre US talent. Don't hire harder working, better qualified talent from India.