@1kc are you okay?
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@rc I notice that the most thoughtful comments get this kind of grade-school reaction from you. Speaking only for myself, it seems you have nothing to offer and the forum would be well served if you would go troll elsewhere.
None of you have any clue what you're talking about. Good job trying to sound smart though.
@pn Fair point on WARN mechanics — agreed it’s not as simple as people think, especially with distributed teams and staggered actions.
That said, moving certain client segments to inside/call-center coverage isn’t the same thing as an immediate large-scale RIF. That’s a coverage model change, which companies do all the time, often through attrition, redeployment, or account realignment rather than mass terminations.
Also worth separating client segmentation strategy from headcount reductions. One can happen without the other, at least initially.
Not dismissing internal messaging — just saying there’s a gap between “accounts under X size shift channels” and “salesforce layoffs are imminent,” and that gap is where a lot of speculation tends to run wild.
@pn It's human nature to stick your head in the sand when you see a hurricane coming your way. The ability to analyze and accept the truth and make changes necessary for the future is uncommon. From a psychologically perspective its interesting to watch people justify why xyz or abc actions vs trying to understand reality.
@nx you might wanna actually take some time and read up on a specific requirements for WARN. They will be able to cut without having to provide any notice given most of the sales staff works from home, or distributed locations. Additionally, the fact that it’ll be stretched out past 30 and 90 days cycles, this will never be an issue. For those who choose to listen to what they’re saying, this has been communicated internally. They may not be saying a certain percentage of the salesforce, but they have certainly communicated the clients under a certain employee size or annual revenue. Size are going to move to the call centers.
@nx theve figured out how to get around Warn for years.
STOP IT !!!
Some of this sounds like normal integration noise getting exaggerated. Restructuring has been ongoing for a while — that’s not new.
But people throwing around numbers like “80% of sales” have zero basis in anything public or internally communicated. If something that material was happening, it would show up in filings or WARN notices.
Not saying nothing ever happens — just saying rumor ≠ fact.
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@k9 And don't forget AI will write the scripts for the sales and support agents. Especially where Xerox has intelligent agents installed at the customers. Until Xerox can no longer pay Microsoft for the licenses and fess required to run the AI.
@jc call it what you want (CDW MODEL) , but we agree that 80% of the sales staff will be gone. Their customers will be covered by a remote representative in an office that is almost most instances isn’t anywhere near the customer (inside sales). They won’t ever see or visit customer and won’t have a relationship past the transaction.
80% plus of the sales force will be gone by EOY. If you’re in sales in any capacity and think you’re safe , you better open your eyes.
The San Antonio call center isn't about moving sales inside; it's about moving it away from the much more highly compensated reps that built the book of business. It's a CDW bullpen type model. The reps at the very top will keep their positions, and the rest are gone.
80% of existing sales reps will be gone in 12 months, if the company makes it that long.
For the sales staff that survives, they can look forward to a revised comp plan.
@j0 not much for sales in Canada once it is all wrapped up.
US. Yes they’ve started. Not a big project with a special code name , but very specific to sales in the US. This will continue through the year aligned with the strategy to move the majority of client relationships to inside sales in Texas and Canada (accompanied with selling MIF to 3rd party dealers). Fast forward 12 months and the sales organization is going to look much different.
Fake news
Where is this ? Us ? uk ?
Yes, affecting IT this time, they forgot to include NDAs this time so word got around faster.
There’s definitely some merit to this post. There was a lot of chatter within the IT and the manage print teams both yesterday with impromptu calls from HR asking leaders to cut significant portions of their teams in the coming weeks.
No. It was just you being let go. It wasn't part of a larger RIF.
Is this a question? Seems like meaningless cr-p