There are lots of rumors, from many sources, about AT&T outsourcing the entire RAN services (operations, performance, design and planning) to Ericsson following the same disastrous recipe Sprint used many years ago before being acquired by T-Mobile. The result of this is clear, more layoffs….
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Yup. Its never ending cycle of outsource, then bring it back in. Wash rinse and repeat.
Copper Catch Products.
Yet the company just announced extensive RAN certification training with a dedicated portal to any employee in Network Engineering.
Good vent..
“ Southwestern bell was the king under Whitaker! “
However you might want to spell the King’s name correctly.
Mobility is cash flow, however margins are shrinking far faster than growth. Mobility market is saturated. It is however the only reasonably healthy business left. Those that believe wireline is a cornerstone of profit for T still believes in the Easter bunny.
Everyone has a cell phone now. New customers have to be poached from Verizon or T-Mobile. New customer growth has stagnated. The model of selling cell phones from a dedicated brick and mortar store has long since passed its prime.
Not everyone has fiber yet, there is an opportunity for growth here. It is capital extensive but the maintenance once in place, is much less than the copper network.
Do you know what cell phones are called without the "wireline" network? They are called very expensive and useless bricks.
Let me reply to dufus that thinks at&t wireless was the big dog and wireline su-ks........
Southwestern bell was the king under Whitaker!
southwestern bell bought pac bell, and Ameritech
then the name was changed to Sbc
then SBC had a joint venture with Bellsouth called Cingular
then Sbc bought out Bellsouth along with other Half of Cingular
SOOOO you think At&t wireless was the big g-n Dufus! think again it all started with landline based Southwestern bell! yes that's right Landlines!!!
No one said wireline was the cornerstone of profit, simply that we can turn a profit by ourselves. We have a solid product, and we would be just fine. The layoffs are going to happen despite the profit made either way, and this is the sad reality of it all. Good luck to you.
Mobility is cash flow, however margins are shrinking far faster than growth. Mobility market is saturated. It is however the only reasonably healthy business left. Those that believe wireline is a cornerstone of profit for T still believes in the Easter bunny.
Right every one else must have massaged the numbers , except where you work. Wireline has 12 million subscribers for consumer broadband and Mobility has over 222 million subscribers. Its apples and oranges to compare the two for numerous reasons, and with the 42 billion in BEAD funding being released we are getting some of your shine, especially since you have fallen to the number 3 ranked provider. We know what it takes to build and maintain last mile networks, so spare us how hard it is for you. The Mobility folks that I work are good and generally helpful, you must be one of the few that just can't stand to dig a bit deeper and realize that we are in this together from an employee perspective . Spin us off, we will do just fine. The corporation does not care about us or the customer individually, only the maximization of profit. Your vitriol is aimed in the wrong direction.
From the central office generators, batteries, rectifiers, Fiber transport equipment outside plant maintenance the building maintenance and all the employees and teams that support this and believe me I’m leaving a lot out. It is all a huge expense and one that is required in order for a wireless network to work. A wireless network that starts and ends at the leased tower that we don’t own on phones that Apple makes and sold in stores that are authorized resellers. Wireless makes a lot of money yes on a network that wireline bought and paid for and continues to pay for so your welcome but your billions are ours to spend.
“ its funny how many mobility folks on this site that think they are the only organization that makes money. Wireline makes plenty of cash, and we are not even in half the markets you are in.”
Look at the last quarterly report and the growth in wireline was based on fiber and First Net adds.
Understand those reports are massaged to make them look better but a 19 billion income for Mobility versus a 1.5 billion for wireline (past nine months) is kind of hard to fudge completely.
Your lack of understanding of the company structure and its function is plainly evident But you keep doing you bud. You are just lashing out like a dying animal.
You don’t make plenty of cash. Be surprising if you aren’t in the Red. All the empty buildings with one or two people in it..out of the 156k or so employees in the company how many are landline? 120k? Maybe more. Yet you aren’t in half the markets that mobility covers. See a problem? Still paying taxes, utilities, and upkeep on buildings that have been empty going on 7 years… seems legit. Sure would love to go back to what it used to be when it was AT&T wireless. Without the id--ts from landline. The leadership from SBC and Cingular have been an embarrassment to the industry. At least then the network and customer mattered. MA bell stinks!!!! This is easily the worst ran company in America.
“Why do we keep posting the same thing over and over ?”
I know, it’s like endless RTO posts. Who gives an F about RTO..you don’t see the field whining about it? Why are the office folks so special?
@osz+1pQ2KfH9 its funny how many mobility folks on this site that think they are the only organization that makes money. Wireline makes plenty of cash, and we are not even in half the markets you are in.
They aren’t going to outsource the entire RAN regardless of how many times you post this. Verizon is swapping out Nokia for Samsung so maybe this says something about Nokia.
I could see some parts going to a vendor but not all of it. Tens of thousands of landline folks doing nothing daily but you want to gut the one money maker for the company? Sure mmkay
Why do we keep posting the same thing over and over ?