Weds night, I laid in my bed thinking "not only do I have to go in tomorrow, I also have to go in the day after"
Traffic, office buzz, constant distractions, lack of personal space, zero ability to focus.
Just give us at least one day a week to work from a place where we can actually get work done.
High time for us to create a Union, these a--holes won't stop making our lives he-l if we don't do something about it and unite for our demands.
@qw "single biggest reasons"
WTF? Try single biggest reason. The singular must be consistent.
Poor writing is a sign of poor intellect.
Lol...you do realize...most.of.our ELT and SLT is literally virtual workers. They say culture flows from the top but in this case culture is only meant for employees.
Our executives are so old and brain dead that they don't think about customers but rather how to play politics internally. That is the single biggest reasons why our products don't have a vision or a strategy. Too busy playing politics rather than listening to the market. Most have no idea what the P&L of their products even looks like. The only one who track them at probably the finance folks
@d1 They literally fired all the managers that resisted.
Y'all got spoiled with covid nonsense. You have a job, you go to that job. Your home is where you live, not work.
@nx What IS he doing, other than writing checks to MCK?
@n8 unfortunately, you can't guarantee your job. If you move. Move. I know that sounds insane, but I am aware of two employees who were let go because they moved to a different geographical area and because they are office based, their position- the location code for their position- requires that it'd be in that office.
@n8 silly move
@nw what do you expect him ti do , give a speech ?
The stock is now below the $22.58 low of September 18 and at its weakest since the August 6 earnings. Where's the CEO?
Make sure you ask for this in the new employee survey. OT cares but its not on them if you dont let them know!
I am moving so that I will be outside of a 100km radius because I feel that our soccer-loving CEO, who doesn't care about the added cost and environmental impact, will extend the radius that far after the 50km folks are all in the office and there remain enough desks open to demand more bodies are in the office.
I would happily move on to something new if I could get past the AI resume reading systems.
@g3 in an attempt to be cheap, they are chosing to cause stress for every single employee and hoping that some subset feels so much stress that they leave (presumably they don't want the ENTIRE employee base to quit?) That's a wonderful plan. Make all your employees feel pain until they can't take it and part of them just collapse under the stress? What exactly are we trying to produce and sell here? I thought it was software, not mental stress.
It's funny because for a company that likes to follow (vs lead), there's actually plenty of data showing that 5 days RTO isn't a good idea. That companies lose the people they don't always want to lose by forcing RTO. That women are disproportionately affected due to responsibilities at home. That commuting (especially long commutes and in cars) is a mental drain on staff. That RTO is not going to deliver on "collaboration" when teams are not all located in a single office. That hybrid seems to be a sweet spot in terms of getting people to meet and communicate without completely draining people. Even the Energy secretary in the US said people should drive less to help bring down gas prices. We know commuting dropped during COVID and air quality improved. Being in the office is also a reminder for some teams about how many people have been laid off and what an awful, depressing office environment has been created.
They want you to leave, so they don't have to pay severance
@bb Leadership absolutely does not care / is not interested in employees' opinions around requirements to work fully in office. The only employees OT would have concern about in terms of a "mass exit" is sales coded employees. The "do you plan to quit" in 6 months question on the post-GTM survey was specifically targeted for sales because this was a concern during the GTM change planning and noted by the company that worked with OT on the GTM model as a risk to rollout success.
It's awful and I feel it is unfair for employees who are office based. The company has no issue if an employee resigns, especially in this market because for every marketing, enablement, product, etc. employee on the payroll, there are thousands of job seekers. Also, all of these positions are not geo dependent. OT would love nothing more than to replace a US employee in high cost areas with Canada - based employees. Plus, EVERY non sales position needs review and approval before it is refilled.
The one way out is to request an exception and come up with a valid, documented reason. If your exception request is supported by your manager and your manager's manager and so on, it will make its way to your ELT leader and if your ELT leader approves, these exception requests get managed by an outside company to be sure it is legal. There are employees who have been pursuing this since the corporate announcement of the change. Medical exceptions have the best success rate.
The biggest roadblock is your direct manager. When corporate rolled out the RTW program they emphasized with managers they were to support this effort. It would take a strong, independent manager to go against that vibe because it would call attention to them and their own leadership skills.
What is unfortunate is that before the pandemic, there were many, many global companies that had a virtual – remote work policy, when everyone went remote during the pandemic. After the pandemic, many of those companies grabbed on to the hybrid work model and some later the full office model. This means that there are very few global companies today who offer a full virtual role or even hybrid role.
@c7 - not just the energy at the office, but all those people who reportedly expressed a preference to leadership for being better together in cramped corporate corrals!
But wait, I seem to remember some posts on this board bragging about the amazing energy in-office. Those all can't be lies now, can they?
Exactly! Everyone feels the same. I was thinking that maybe they would consider a change if all the office-based employees worldwide signed a letter to them. This RTO policy is crazy, and they are creating huge differences between virtual and office-based employees, even in terms of benefits.
If we look at other companies, some have three levels: office-based (5 days), hybrid (3 days), and fully remote, depending more on the level and role. But I think that, in the end, this approach is only disadvantaging the company because we are just doing what needs to be done and not going the extra mile.
Have you tried to stay home one day? I don't think anyone would notice/react. It's really awful for employees targeted to be in the office for no other reason than they live near an office. I don't know how employees are managing this. One day a week would be too much.