Thread regarding Verizon Wireless layoffs

The company will always find a way to to beat around the Union Bush. Once the company and Union agree to a contract. You will experience 4 years of hell(vacation, sicktime etc). Verizon is going to screw you all. Jump ship or go down crying when it happens.

I have a good union name: CPSUB (Cell Phone Slingers United Brotherhood)

Verizon Retail people.. listen up.. guys and gals.. DON'T STAY IN RETAIL. Elevate yourself, if you were in Retail less than ~2 years then ok cool whatever, learn your stuff. Anyone above 2 years and some years as Retail manager, WAKE UP!!!! Start skilling up! use the tuition reimbursement, get a degree, learn technology, learn a skill like networking or coding or business or finance or something!! Get something out of your misery in Retail. That's one thing awesome about Verizon is that they have a ton of resources to learn but a lot of folks especially in Retail are so dumb they don't realize they're sitting on free learnings.. Brick and mortar will continue to decline, My Verizon will be taking your jobs, do something better for yourselves. I left in Dec 2020 on my own. I was in Retail for about 6 years (that was a mistake, shouldve left earlier), went into B2B, then Verizon Media, then Solutions Architect in VZW, and now I left and work for a Silicon Valley tech company will easily clear $200K. I skilled up every year, I took advantage of Verizon's learning portal. Did you know that you guys get PluralSight for free??? I miss PluralSight but now I have to pay for it. Bro.. get off your a$$ and learn something! Let's go.. you already missed the perfect time to skill which during a pandemic 2020. Start now.. get off this site and START SKILLING UPPPPPP!!!! NOOW!!! you're welcome.

Rant much... Sheesh

I hope to not offend anyone but just to lay out my thoughts!! TAKE WHAT I SAY FOR WHAT IT IS!. ALL OF IT IS FACTS.....

Some of you are just scared to even educate y'all selves of y'all rights or maybe you have.. . who would of thought workers got rights????yes you do!!.refer to your local National Labor Relations Board(NLRB)..They are there to protect your rights as workers and help hold companies from violating them...you can report unethical company practices there and you dont need a union to do that( anonymously..best thing about that is, it starts a paper trail of potential company violations.FACTS!!.....

some of you are afraid of the unknown. some of you need guidance..some of you dont know how to get started, where to go and who to reach, or how to take action...some are just waiting for change to come...some are on the sidelines waiting for someone else to fight for them and reap the benefits...some dont care...some do care but keep their heads low..some see the writing on the Wall and just waiting for the serverance..some believe they going to look for another job and not going to be there longer..some believe the company drinking the so called the kool aid..lol.....some people feel like union is the way. some feel it is not.. some of you are just misinformed....FACTS!!

I get it, folks are burnt out..folks are scared...folks are stress..folks feel stagnant..folks feel undervalued..ive been there and understand the grief and stress of the job...I understand feeling powerless...

Reach out to your local ATT and ask how they feel about CWA.? How many times CWA has saved their jobs when ATT eliminated positions/jobs? ask yaself why Does Verizon even care about y'all forming a union. although, yes, you pay dues when part of a union thats not a secret! but it far less than what the company is taking out of your pockets and out the mouths of your families. union dues are less than 2% of your hourly pay (not on commission not on overtime). some believe that forming a union is about paying dues, well I hate to break it to you, ITS NOT! its about organizing, building unity and standing as a unified front against injustices at work,holding your employer accountable and demand change...Instead of doing it alone you do it collectively...(there's power in numbers if you didn't know already) ..and by standing together you build bargaining power to fight back and demand your needs be met.. it would only happen if y'all stand together ..and get on the same page....the union cant do it for you..forming a union can only help....the UNION becomes the vehicle you drive...You are the UNION...despite what ever propaganda the company has told you... for all non management employees you owe it to yourself to inform yourselves...FACTS!!

If you decide to form a union there is a play book that the companies pay thousands of dollars for that misinform you about unions..But not just union but focus on CWA in particular....thats because VZW hates that CWA knows how to fight back and stand against INJUSTICE. This play book is used and followed to the (Tee). It is used to deceive and misinform....they try to do so "legally"/loop holes..they purchase this play book from a union busting law firm that is really good at the job.... first they would act like they care and want to hear about your issues and concerns, which is when they dig for information to get to know you and find out what motives you. they would butter you up making you feel valued... ITS ALL A TRICK...some would see right thru the BS but some wouldn't...if those things dont work they would move to the next play. the final goal for them is to ultimately CONQUER and DIVIDE which they are often successful with...turning manager against reps..reps against reps...they do so by tightening up on policies and the ropes of day to day....FACTS!!

MANAGERS/LEADERS dont take it personal if employees want to form a union in there store or district..the fight is not against you..its against the company and things out of your control...Especially, when you a good Leader continue to lead and be a good leader to the store and the reps got respect for you...theres a difference between being a LEADER AND being a MANAGER...anyway....your in the same boat with reps but unfortunately cant be part of a union ....if the company doesn't see value in you they can just replace you for less..which based on this forum they are doing so already..but I must agree that its very unfortunate and messed it..especially how they do it...anyway....they would use you to divide the reps and tell them otherwise...you become a puppet for the company unless you really think that unions are bad for them and agree with the company and stand on their side. . They do so with underhanded tactics that works and people fall for it alot.. But only if folks aren't informed and educated about the practices and process...FACTS!!

These union busting firms sends some one who would recognize as a HR consultant. DONT believe them they do not work for the company. you have the right, not to talk to them if you dont want to you can respectfully decline to talk or hear them out and see what they have to say.. ultimately their job is to get to know you and find out what motives you and your coworkers they are phishing for information that they can later use to come back and deter you! They have many tactics ..if one dont work they try another...but they follow the PLAY BOOK.....im able to share this because I have experienced it and can tell u all about it. Forming a union dont solve all the problems but I think it sure would give you a fighting chance. FACTS!!!!

By forming a union you gain a power the company doesn' want you to have. They dont want to give that power up and put it in your hands to decide whats best for you all. You gain the power to negotiate your wages, benefits, and all the things you enjoy working there. When your "AT WILL" the company can take those things away when ever they want or even lay you off..not saying this cant happen when you are part of a union but at least you have negoiation power..you get to negotiate the change ..negotiate the severance....etc etc...thats because when your are union you have a contract and its in writing any change to that contract has to be negotiated in the best interest of its members.FACTS!!!

• ,... alot of these benefits u have you get keep because the company needs to stay competitive within the industry when it comes to benefits etc...but they can take away when they want to or change... ATT sets the standard and if ATT can have UNION why cant you guys.

Dont take it from me but a UNION at VZW is in your best interest....IF you know anyone what works at Verizon landline ask them why they stick with CWA!....ask someone at your local ATT!!... this information is here for who ever wants it , or wants to hear it. Go to verizonworkers.org and call the hotline. At this point at VZW whats the worst that can happen that they are not doing already..,..

We don't need union boi bye

Go look at the AT&T layoff site and see how the CWA is helping. Here's a hint: they only help reduce your paycheck by taking out their dues.

@nkq+196hCgIe says that the union lies. how many lies have the union told u or u have heard??...what promises has the union made to you or u know of?.. now how many times have vzw lied to their employees???? Ill wait for a response.....u thought what vzw did pre pandemic was very generous right and could do no harm and have employees best interest at heart? whats worst? telling employees that they matter and that they are essential and valued and then turn around and lay them off and blame it on pandemic.......facts are facts...CWA never make promises....vzw had this plan in the making, covid just accelerated the process and worked in their favor.... whose telling the lies here...be honest with yourself. im built for the debate!!!!!!...stand up and fight back!! vzw has to be held accountable for the things that they do. forget what management thinks some are only there to do the company's bid and once the company got what they need from them they too would be gone...management cant the same a protection a rep can. I know many managers that would like to go union and they cant and theirs others that just drinks the kool aid...dont believe everything you hear from the company,,,or management...no all management ....some managers are cool AF..

Paid by the union to take money from VZW employees and make BS promises and lie to them. Cute

Hey guys alot of u are right about what ur saying ..I'm an organizer with CWA and used to work at the brooklyn vzw stores..let's have a conversation and keep it 100...I would love to share my experience and knowledge with anyone that's wants to know the truth and wants to fight back and find out how to fight back.....a union is nothing without it's members and is only strong if members are actively fighting....where does the strength of a union comes from?...its from it's people..a union can't fight for u of ur not willing to fight for urself and ur coworkers... ....if ur readin9 th2is and9 want2 rea89ch out0 t2xt me09..Decode the code...to be honest what do y'all have to lose at this point..how much worst does the company have to get before the writing on the wall is more apparent... I'll be on the look out for who ever wants to talk about ..

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Union shill detected

@jyn+196hCgIe Regardless of a union if VZW forced an employee to go from 40 - 32 hours they can collect unemployment on the 8 hours. Now this will never happen because you would be offered a VSP first and if declined then you would not be eligible for unemployment on the 8 hours anymore. The important thing to remember here is that you don’t need a union to take advantage of your states unemployment laws.

That rep is incorrect. The contract allows the company to control the hours worked and all reps could be forced part time and the union would be powerless... Again. Facts are important.

I talked to a rep working at the unionized Brooklyn store. He told me that under their current contract Verizon can’t reduce weekly hours or pay. There are a lot of other things involved but his main concern was not worrying about having to go to a 32 hour work week. He is also not interested in a take it or leave it severance package at this time. Personally I would take a severance and leave this company in a heartbeat.

Brooklyn is union. Has the same comp plan as you do, used to have 6 stores now 3. No job security. At&t closed hundreds of stores last year and their comp and benefits are worse than yours. But if you want a union just go work at at&t. Be miserable there.

Join the union. Lose more hard earned money. Still get the same as everyone else. Sounds smart. Don't be fooled by the union organizer acting like a rep.

I also think this is the right time to join a union. The CWA should be soliciting all the reps from the stores to let them know how we go about getting one started. If someone from CWA is reading start having people put flyers on the employee cars at the Verizon locations. The website doesn’t really have a play book as to where to even start.

The last comment made was from the Management or someone higher up to see how we react. They already know that if we go Union, they’d have no choice but to pat us what we deserve!! Simply put & and at this time it makes perfect sense for us to do so. Nobody literally nobody is making a noise abt the higher ups bonuses/ comps etc which they’ll get paid by firing/laying off frontline workers. Everyone is saying Covid, oh Im so thankful, etc if one can see a pattern, they wud. Why do u think Verizon kept us paying IAs in the beginning of the pandemic? To sinoky put media’s eyes aways from them, but they knew what they were doing. Obviously they wudn’t reveal any of that right there and then, so that way no one cud’ve made a big noise abt it. And NOW what do we see??? Their true faces!! Hans should be fired or should b put under investigation. He’a doing exactly what he got hired for but people r waking up & ain’t stupid. It’s gonna hppn like it did in Ericsson!! FYI: This ain’t SWEDEN!!!!!!

Most reps are not nearly as busy as we used to be, and we are getting well compensated for our time and for what we actually now do or we would leave. So I’m not surprised they want to justify the pay and knowing how to open and close- care used to do this and they were paid the least, it’s not even stressful and I won’t have a manager on my back. This is exactly how my tmo store ran when I was there we all had keys. A union can’t stop this since all Vzw would have to do is run your transactions from 2 yes ago vs today and ask why you would be compensated for for doing so much less and actually could lose pay. Think about it, I’ll take my keys and keep the benefits thanks, I didn’t grow up entitled and Vzw doesn’t owe me anything it’s my choice to stay for what I consider a job that is damn easy that allows me to have a roof over my head and support my child.

In June they’re planning to implement this new change where Solution Specialists will b doing Managerial duties etc. There will be like 3-4 Key Holders (they dont get anything extra for doing them this favor), but if they do it, they job security etc, if they dont they’ll b simply harassed. So this is NOT just a Union matter if we do decide to go Union which I highly wish, but its also a HR matter. The only reason why people haven’t started calling & presenting their concerns, is bcz of these unprecedented times & Verizon is taking full advantage of it. FYI, paying us our regular IA when the pandemic started was part of that plan too, so NOBODY can actually make a noose abt it THEN & everyone took it as the company’s generous gesture towards its employees. Hans & team is making sure of their own plans without giving a damn abt the repercussion. All what THEY care abt is THEIRS’, THEIR Favs ( Includes Krista Bourne & many others’ Fat Bonuses, Shareholders). So all those folks who think Union is just a waste of money, it ain’t!! As a matter of fact what built this country is Union!! Think Smart not VZ Smart for a change here people!!

In order for a union to be effective, you have to have leverage and bargaining power. What do you think would happen if Verizon retail were to all strike in this kind of job environment?

I’ve heard smthng similar that Solution Specialists will be doing Managerial/Admin work as they call it & that TOOO without any pay increase etc...so what hppnd to the so called “Job Descriptions” for a particular role?? It very well becomes an HR matter, but since they like to put Cotton in their ears so they can’t hear anything, why shouldn’t we go Union? CWA with AT&T gets them awesome, amazing 4 year contracts & provides them with job security, then why can’t we being the biggest carrier there is? I dont see no harm in it!! Lets go for it & go HARD!! Not just Verizon as such, but the whole country needs a “Worker’s Revolution”.

FYI, its abt $30 a month. So lets not FREAK OUT assuming that its A LOT MORE. And yeah this wud b a perfect time to do that. I fully support u OP!! Let’s get it done. After all what do we have to lose anyways after the damage has been done already? And oh yeah, what do Han’s Pets have to say abt it? Go on and bark up, we’re waiting for the Woof Woof...