Thread regarding SAP layoffs

Upcoming reorg (AIPOM) in Product Engineering

Hi all, does anyone have any information about the upcoming AIPOM reorg in Product Engineering? I know that there are some frontrunner teams who are "trying out" the new improved HPOM model. I am looking for any insights or opinions of how this will look like once rolled out. In my unit we only got some white paper word salad in the email and it does not say anything concrete, so it just makes everyone nervous. There are some sessions called "Raw and Real" which are supposed to share the reality of working in this setup, but tbh I don't believe they are neither raw nor real. Any insights or opinions are appreciated.

P.S.: Yes yes, I did my homework: "Chuck this, toothbrush that, XY nationality is the best, we should all trust the board"... Please go post the troll sh comments somewhere else <3

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@n4 This is a giant problem we have in our societies and economies. We've let the economic eleite get so far away from the common person that they can no longer see common interest and will keep skewing things in their direction until it all falls over (arguably it already did in 2008 and we have just seen nearly two decades of kicking the can down the road). Your already seeing a lot of the social contract fraying causing large uprisings. But these people will never learn that their greed causes conflict and ultimatly their own demise.

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Post ID: @p1+1m5cyff8f

@k3 of course. CK wants to squeeze as much money as possible from SAP to his bonus before his contract ends. And to facilitate this, he's giving money to area executives by having them support layoffs. Layoffs is where he thinks the money is coming from. So shortsighted but what can one really expect from billionaires and millionaires. They're oblivious to the lives of common people.

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Post ID: @n4+1m5cyff8f

Layoffs confirmed again

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Post ID: @k3+1m5cyff8f

I am sure the board will fix all of these problems.

They are great.

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Post ID: @j8+1m5cyff8f

@ek So you want all the people who build and run the product you sell to be fired? How long before it all falls down do you think SAP would last without R&D, IT and SecOps? This mentality is what has ki-led SAP, complete disconnect between those selling the product and those who actually do the work that makes the product actually sellable.

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Post ID: @hk+1m5cyff8f

@fm As the first comment said, it will be renamed to CHUCKPOM.

After that, no one will dare to change the name again.

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Post ID: @h3+1m5cyff8f

It was HPOM and then AIPOM and will be renamed to SIPOM because CK wants to now call it super intelligence

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Post ID: @fm+1m5cyff8f

@ek as long as SAP’s immortal “ecosphere partners” have taken on the load of public cloud solution subscribers - the now extinct E-CSP’s managed multiple dozen in their 24/7 coverage portfolio - your comment has nuanced validity. Otherwise, are the partners now the load-bearing support members of a lumbering organization?

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Post ID: @en+1m5cyff8f

If you are not billable , you should be fired

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Post ID: @ek+1m5cyff8f

@OP I'm in an area where they trialed HPOM which is now AIPOM. Honestly, a lot has changed in day-to-day work as a product manager. While the core responsibilities remain the same, there is an emphasis on burning tokens even if using AI is not relevant in that case. Our customer base is deeply unhappy with the AI slop that is now added to SAP products. They want SAP to focus on functionality that they have been asking for for years and instead SAP keeps talking about more AI features. This may impact revenue in a year or two, who knows! I think documentation has gotten better and worse at the same time. We have a meeting where we transcribe everything, ask AI to create a summary, then a few days later ask AI to go through all the summaries to find relevant action items. While it seems structured, it is actually the opposite because there is so much clutter. I literally need AI to navigate through this clutter to find something useful. Personally, I don't like it. It seems like a lot of busy work that generates little to no value. The only value it generates is documenting our job and work well so we can be easily replaced. And that is not a good feeling either. I miss the simpler times when SAP focused more on customer needs than AI slop to bring the share price up. AI is making us more bloated.

When you wrote "we only got some white paper word salad in the email and it does not say anything concrete", this is exactly how I feel about being in the new model. Imagine that everything around you is a white paper word salad and you have to use AI to even make sense of what you are being told. That's how AIPOM is for many of us. But our management treats it as gospel so we all pretend to love it. After all, anyone who doesn't use AI will find themselves in these lists that management is making for 2027 and 2028 layoffs.

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Post ID: @eb+1m5cyff8f

@db The germans are no better, thier english is often equally odd and difficult to follow in meetings.

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Post ID: @e5+1m5cyff8f

Anyone who hasn't created at least one useful AI skill a month does not deserve to work at SAP - according to an Engineering VP in our area

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Post ID: @e2+1m5cyff8f

Random observation: Indians are as rude as many Americans when it comes to talking in English. They simply fire away and ignore the fact that for most people in Germany English is not their native language. They speak without trying to speak Oxford English (as it is taught in schools in Germany) in their hard-to-understand accent and then complain a ton when people do not get what they are saying.

Just observed in a tram in Frankfurt.

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Post ID: @db+1m5cyff8f

@bk He is right though.

Chuck is the solution.

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Post ID: @cb+1m5cyff8f

@b8 GROW UP

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Post ID: @bk+1m5cyff8f

The one and only model this company needs is a CHUCKPOM model

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