Thread regarding Honeywell International Inc. layoffs

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No, that is not how it works.

Yes, HQ functions (HR, Marketing, Finance, etc.) I agree would be expected to significantly, but not entirely, consolidate with the buyer.

Your analogy with the Allied Signal purchase is perfect. HQ functions mostly moved out of Minneapolis, but most other things already in Minneapolis stayed put. Allied Signal didn't rip the fab out of Plymouth for example, and Ridgeway was still running last I checked.

I would expect if a purchase happened, the HQ staff at Sky Harbor would probably be cut in roughly half. Phoenix Engines, Deer Valley, Tempe, etc. would be very, very expensive to move. Why pay the hundreds of millions (or billions) of dollars it would to move and re-certify everything just to say they got out of Phoenix?

More of a moneymaker to spin-off aero division and keep it going by the buyer than shutting sites down.

Phoenix would be closed down. General electric would be the parent company. When allied signal bought Honeywell they closed down to Minneapolis location.
By keeping their location. They eliminate redundancy and our company culture. They want their own culture.

Sorry folks. General electric is bigger than us. They will be the parent company. Stop thinking that you're the parent company. They don't need two corporate offices for aerospace. So a merger of any company with Honeywell aerospace, definitely not going to be a good thing for those working at Honeywell aerospace in Phoenix.

KD is a genius. More so then the basketball player. He drains more 3's for sure. Like a boss.

Cincinnati and evendale have 10X the manufacturing footprint, economies of scale, established supply chain with the engineering presence there. I’m sure they’ve squeeze the international supply chain so Phoenix would not be a low cost base. BTW I think engineering would be hit harder than manufacturing in an acquisition. There’s just not much technology that we would bring to the table. Good luck to all of us.

What's the reasoning behind Phx being shut down if GE were to buy Aero? Isn't it a lower cost region and being non-union wouldn't it be more likely that Phx sees an increase in military work?

Kevin most likely has a nice fat payout coming if Honeywell is sold off, so his opinion needs to be put into perspective. Don’t think this will be good for any Honeywell employees. When alliedsignal bought Lycoming, 90% of engineers quit or were RIF’ed and all manufacturing was moved to Phoenix. If GE buys engines, it’ll be a bloodbath for the mechanical side of the house. And I expect PHX to be sut down. The electronic side of Aero may fare better.

Yeah.. but the parasites have reached senior level roles, you won't get rid off them, by keeping the company together.

The damage is beyond repair, and run by Indian leadership who are at best mediocre, risk averse, and believe in cost reduction, wants their stock options, and moving jobs to india. The CEO https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vimal_Kapur was born, educated and lived mostly in India, guess where his friends, family and cousins live. No wonder he will continue to talk DEI and promote HIB.

When the company breaks, or bought out or whatever, the new owner will cut at director level, and keep the line manager and top engineers, because they are not buying MBAs , they are buying talented engineers, and technology.

So let the American economical shark tank get the best of it.

GE knows how to makes engines, Honeywell has barely invested a dime into it, thus makes sense to hand it over to GE. Hon electronics should be across the ITAR lines and sold to respective DOD and commercial companies.

Absolutely the very best and most accurate assessment I have ever read on the state of Honeywell! A very informed and intelligent analysis if perhaps even a little overly gentle (though he remains respectably professional). Makes me wonder if ChatGPT scraped and analyzed this forum it would present an similar synopsis!

https://aviationweek.com/aerospace/manufacturing-supply-chain/opinion-why-honeywell-must-change