Get ready. The announcement is coming. JD just wants one more zinger before he hopefully gets axed.
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Most of these comments are embarrassing. I’m ashamed to say I work with you. Shame
@2epn "sure thing predictions" are easy when they're obvious. We're being ruined by tragically awful decision making at a time when we also can't afford to lose any of what employee goodwill is left. Trying to aimlessly tick a 5th box on RTO is about as foreseeably a good idea as kicking someone in the nuts who's help you need right now
Su-k it up everyone…you need to be in office to make innovative products. - Best JD
It's like a broken record around here, people claiming "sure thing" predictions and nothing happens. Every once in a while something happens the way they were "predicting" and they feel like they were prescient, when it's really just a stopped clock being right two times a day.
You can bet not even one of these CaNt WAiT 2bE bAk dinosaurs salivating over an on-site Friday is capable of providing a shred of reason why inflexible RTO measurably helps us let alone one more day being worth the final bullet in culture and morale. The trade proposition is absolutely hysterical. You're telling me with a straight face our presence, and on Friday, will do what? Make lazy people suddenly work? Encourage and reward hard workers? Is this the fu--ing twilight zone?
Pro tip: you along with the ELT are in the obvious minority. The world has moved on, we measured our own success in doing so over several years, and now flipping a u-turn in begging for yesteryear's inefficiency will net exactly inefficiency PLUS a clear majority of resentful employees. Watching people push this agenda is like watching Windows 95 crash.
But sure, keep insisting on dying over this ridiculous obsession with waging war on workforce engagement and happiness. No way that will have any blowback we could have predicted.
Nike tech is toxic.
Can confirm - I unfortunately have knowledge of this and the b|tch nuggets really are planning to enforce the 5 day work week for all.
Have you had enough yet? The beatings will continue until morale improves.
I don’t care if you are a senior director, VP, etc. the 5 day work week is rolling out in the not too distant future. I have (unfortunately) first hand knowledge of how it’s going down. I just wish I knew when JD is getting axed.
You’re not wrong. Our some tech departments have under delivered for a decade without repercussions or serious leadership turnover.
But you can’t take examples of cronyism and make blanket statements about all of tech. At the end of the day a company as large as Nike can’t operate without someone writing the code that runs everything, hype, consumer engagement, websites (for customers & retailers), order systems, inventory, shipping… it all needs software engineers.
And Nike’s core demographic is NOT software engineers. We’re in the same boat as the FBI trying to find hackers that are weed-free. We can’t let simple jealousy take away benefits that would otherwise help us attract the GOOD talent that can deliver.
You take away remote work and you’re going to end up with even more failed tech delivery. You get what you pay for. And Nike has been cutting costs for too long.
Pi----g off tech….cute. Tech is the most bloated, useless and slow in Nike. Any competitive advantage they were supposed to bring hasn’t happened in like ever. Failures are written all over- SEC, Adobe, Analytics, AI/ML, Platform, Architecture, Tech Modernization. They haven’t been able to do anything. Just keeps adding more technology and building their own resumes
Very long time employee here and don’t believe this to be true. I’m shocked the past few years, like many, but Nike mixed with the Oregon vibe, this won’t happen.
Considering most employees are attached to their communications or support 24/7 already, this would be a huge mistake to say the least.
Prepare for a lot more comp time utilized, and less applicants if this is true.
Nike has to hopefully hang on to what has made Nike attractive historically for employees. So much has been abandoned and this would be the “nail in the coffin”.
Lots of Tech roles are in person- some were never allowed to work remote. I hear most of the teams in Serena work remote. So sounds like the people who make the sh-t products are the ones who need to come to the office and do something other than make black and white shoes. The ones who support those and create all of the custom tools to make your jobs easy should get some flexibility. Pi----g off Tech is just like annoying the janitor- it never works out for you.
30ish year old here. Ready for 5 days in the office personally. But also would like all facility services (gyms, restaurants, etc.) open all 5 days too without GPS over-optimizing hours. Just me but working remotely is very distracting and I thrive on a consistent schedule. Should also do away with activity based workspaces and let us have our own desks so that we have some level of consistent comfort again.
Whoever wrote this - "You boomers and your “back in my day we came to office speech” are so out of touch. Times have changed, you miserable fuxks need to grow and adapt. People want flexibility not to listen to you dinosaurs talk around the water cooler"
You f ing a--hole - those boomers made Nike. You apparently are a lazy S-B, working Nike into the ground (oh, wait, you dont' really work....). Get you d-mb a-s to your manager and f ing resign. You don't belong at Nike. You don't deserve Nike.
Just f off.
Lol. We watched 4 day RTO come and go, directly causing lower throughput, higher error rate, and people visibly checking out. I can measure it for my teams (GT). No one I know feels more "innovative" now (maybe boomer does) but do feel more stressed and less connected to the work. So great, we worked against ourselves. Awesome job!
Now let's drive in the last nail.... why? What will that get? Other than people exiting their very last fu-k? ELT needs a lesson in Goodhart's Law: people will meet your requirement in an undesirable way you didn't predict because you're measuring them on it. No one on the ground UNDERSTANDS the push for RTO so people will just do whatever is convenient to them to meet it. Anyone who thinks this won't happen (or hasn't) is a fool.
So want me back 5 days a week? Great, we can be medieval. Just give me a punch card because you won't get a drop more than 8 uninspired hours a day. No late meetings, no early ones. Sorry, not sorry. I like our gyms. I can take coffee breaks and long lunch. Funny thing is no one in the leadership chain I'm part of that actually matters for work getting done would bat an eye, we all like our colleagues and think this is stupid and counterproductive. Hammer that nail, John, go ahead. How low can it go.
“We need to save money!”
“Great! I am remote and moved back home. You can cut my salary in half because Portland’s cost of living is insane.”
“Oh. No. Sorry. We only lay people off to save money. Only the contractors in India get to work remote.
We’re not interested in actually saving money, we just use that as our excuse when we need to hire a buddy.”
You boomers and your “back in my day we came to office speech” are so out of touch. Times have changed, you miserable fuxks need to grow and adapt. People want flexibility not to listen to you dinosaurs talk around the water cooler
Senior Sr. Director here - it is indeed coming, and almost every remote work exception in existence today, will no longer be allowed. Looking at you Tech.
@khg Lmfao. You’re either a brand new contractor or don’t work at Nike.
Summer hours are here. That culturally means no meetings, and if you send me an email after lunch I’m looking at it on Monday.
I love my job so this will be great if true!
@khg+1sDbSFLY
This is the most boomer logic I’ve ever seen.
You have to email from a computer, not a phone, for your work to be legitimate?
Do you carry printed out emails in a briefcase too?
Sorry I meant to say you’re working 7 days a week, 365 days a year & only get one day off when it’s a leap year.
Enjoy!
@xgg yes I’ll explain.
I’d bet my entire life savings (all $2.87) that right now most employees are only marginally “working” on Friday. I base this on the suspiciously long time it takes to get email responses on Friday. Even when I do get a response it’s always obvious the person is responding on their Outlook phone app. I.e., they’re nowhere near a computer. Because they aren’t working.
Are there exceptions? Sure. They’re exactly that: exceptions.
Like a Sr Dir knows anything
Stop the rumors please. SR dir here and we have been advised the 4 day week remains in place. The summer hours even started sooner that it should. Where do you get these ideas?
wait don't you already have a 5 dAY WORK WEEK? can you explain pls? thanks....
Good!!! Because guess what?! Everyone did it before and they were fine!!!
Get it over it and get your tail back into the office.