Thread regarding Ford layoffs

How Toyota avoided the EV trap and won't face Ford's massive layoffs

Toyota never fully bought into the EV narrative. While they publicly supported emissions reductions, they:

Maintained skepticism about pure EVs: They kept investing in hybrids and hydrogen.
Made smaller, more flexible commitments: When they revised EV targets downward, they hadn't already signed massive supplier contracts
Didn't bet on regulatory permanence: They assumed political winds could change
Prioritized profitability over political favor: They were willing to be criticized for not moving fast enough on EVs.

The Fundamental Mistake
GM and Ford made massive, irreversible capital commitments based on political promises rather than market fundamentals. They:

Assumed federal policy would remain stable for a decade
Believed subsidies would be permanent
Thought consumer demand would follow regulatory mandates
Locked in supplier contracts before testing market acceptance

It's a classic case of companies mistaking political theater for business strategy. When executives stood on the White House lawn in 2021, they were making commitments that assumed the administration's policies would survive through 2030. That was a $50+ billion mistake across the industry.
The lesson: Never make billion-dollar bets assuming political conditions won't change, especially in a democracy where administrations change every four years.


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Post ID: @OP+1kfagfsyr

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@m4
"Toyota will be hurting when the day BEV's take a real foothold in the mobility market."

This statement alone disqualified you from any adult level discussion.

Thanks.

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Post ID: @tj+1kfagfsyr

@m4

Toyota listens to the customers. They will be just fine.

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Post ID: @sb+1kfagfsyr

For those liberals blindly support EVs without critical thinking:
No one is saying electric vehicles shouldn’t be developed. The issue is forcing all vehicles to go electric, which ignores market realities and risks the health of the company.
Successful businesses adapt to demand—they don’t chase ideology.

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Post ID: @p3+1kfagfsyr

@m4 A ‘mobility market” doesn’t exist outside of your imagination.
You must loaf in Model e.

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Post ID: @n5+1kfagfsyr

@kf god bless him

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Post ID: @m8+1kfagfsyr

Toyota will be hurting when the day BEV's take a real foothold in the mobility market. This delay in consumer acceptance is only temporary. Range, cost, and infrastructure is improving exponentially and Ford will have a clear advantage when the switch happens. It will be sooner than you think.

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Post ID: @m4+1kfagfsyr

After this weekend, DT will be interim supreme leader. Gas will approach $0.99 per gallon.

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Post ID: @kf+1kfagfsyr

the toyota CEO who pushed back against EVs a while back and got booted for it looks like a super genius now. how soon before EV Silverado gets canned? i wonder if there is one of those betting sites that offer that bet? step right up, folks!

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Post ID: @hf+1kfagfsyr

Well, the main difference is that Toyota's C-suite is not tainted by CNN news. BF is a bleeding heart idealist, that bought into what the left is selling. Business owners should be apolitical.

We, workers, told our LLx that going full on EVs was crazy. It seems the message never got accross to the C-suite, like all other messages. Leaders are not just people in power. Any id--t can be in power, if it wins the gene lotto (BF as example). Leaders don't have to be the smartest person in the room (contrary to what Fartley thinks). Leaders have to be humble enough to LISTEN to others, must have a REAL vision where they want things moving to, and must be really committed to work hard to achieve it.

Kissing political backsides or racing cars is NOT considered "working hard". They should go around , talking to workers, trying to solve or improve the little things... BTW, is "the bathroom at MAP" issue already solved? LOL. Watched it live and it was a huge embarrasment for BF and JF.

So how in the world, are we supposed to trust these guys with the whole company, when they cannot fix a simple bathroom issue. I don't own a single stock on FMC, since it is a matter of time before this company comes crashing down and burn.

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Post ID: @dg+1kfagfsyr

@cg Like someone pants'ed you in the caf?

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Post ID: @ch+1kfagfsyr

Don’t worry about layoff, they will simply humiliate you till you leave , have fun

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Post ID: @cg+1kfagfsyr

Thanks ChatGPT

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Post ID: @c9+1kfagfsyr

Ford is not supporting American people as they hire H1B's, remove American employee's and continued to send jobs out of country.

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Post ID: @bw+1kfagfsyr

Hold on, so Toyota introduced an electric vehicle, had some plans for future ones, focused on proven products, but didn’t completely overhaul their entire business strategy around it? This is truly remarkable, next level thinking.

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Post ID: @ba+1kfagfsyr

Ford and GM relied on government funding, while upper management lined their pockets.

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Post ID: @b9+1kfagfsyr

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