For the past year Cigna has had a hiring freeze and only hiring in Hyderabad. The directive was that U.S. employees can only be hired by exception if no one can be found to fill the role in HIH. IT has a team of Indian people on site in the corporate offices managing all hires. Don’t know how they are doing it but if you walk around the offices you will see a huge majority of India employees in the U.S. offices now. In September they laid off a lot of finance people and brought in all new people in Hyderabad. They notified them in June and made them stay till September training and getting the new HIH people who were taking over their roles onboarded. This will not end as Cigna just cares about cheaper labor regardless of how it impacts U.S. qualified employees. Until the government steps in we will continue to loose our jobs skilled corporate roles here in the U.S.
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@14c It's hilarious how some people are actually downvoting your comment when it is just a statement of obvious fact. The critical thinking level in this country is really sinking.
@14v many are doing this student visa program requires them to find a job in 90 days or leave the country. The Indian I know graduated in May with a masters is CS and got an Indian based company to “hire him” in late August but has not assigned given him any project to work on. That stopped his 90 day “clock” but reading the process he should be providing the University with weekly updates min 20 hours of detailed work log of IT work he is developing/producing for his project.
I guess the University is not following up or reporting that their HB-S grads are not actually working in the IT Field or enforcing them to leave the country.
He works 7 days a week I am sure it’s under the table at my local gas station - these grads are only supposed to have a job in IT or the working sector they got a degree in.
@14t Also agree. Just wanted to add to your great message that I cannot go to a gas station anymore it seems without seeing Indians running it behind the counter.
Which makes me wonder, how many came over on H-1B Visa for technical work, then lost that job, but instead of going back to home country, which they are supposed to do once their H-1B Visa no longer is applicable, and are illegally remaining in the USA, working at a gas station.
@14c No, we need to continue the mission of having congressional bill to stop H-1B Visa altogether so we can get this backdoor immigration taken away.
Temporary work visas were never intended for persons to use as a loop hole to jump the line for immigration. That needs to stop now!
Offshoring is a separate issue that will also need to be addressed but right now I am not sure we can make a dent in that.
BUT WE CAN make a dent in halting H-1B Visas and send non-American citizens back to their home country so that more American citizens can keep their jobs.
And it will help from our country from being taken over and it will hopefully help in protecting Americans sensitive data, and also will increase number of homes and apartments available for American citizens that today are being taken up by all of the non-American H-1B Visas holders.
Most people don't realize that the Trump policies have actually accelerated offshoring. It's a known fact because when he is canceling all these visas companies are just responding by moving all the operations overseas and then they become adept at moving operations overseas
@jf Report them here: https://www.uscis.gov/scams-fraud-and-misconduct/avoid-scams/report-immigration-scams
@jh Funny that the diversity training still assumes we need more Indians lol
I was at a BBQ in CT a few weeks ago and got asked where I work and said Cigna. The person said “you don’t look like you’re Indian”. If Cigna has a rep to people outside the company as being majority Indian, then things are going very badly. They can tell me to kindly please refer to the same, but I’ll just stare. Everything is breaking at Cigna but that’s to be expected when you can’t even understand half the people you work with.
@h0 I know a CS Masters degree who hasn’t gotten hired in the 90 day window and works at a gas station illegally
He is only supposed to have a job in the IT field his 90 days ran out in August but he is still in the country abusing the H1b system
I sure there are many recent grads that can’t find a job and don’t want to go back to India
@a1 "For the ones who are on h1b they have a lot of experience."
I beg to disagree. Not all H1b holders from India have a lot of experience. There is a city in India that produces fake diploma, etc to get an H1b. I heard it from a Podcast that someone here posted.
I'm no lawyer or usually follow this stuff but it feels like there have been an increasing amount of H-1b visas (hiring workers offshore to come work in the US) and also outsourcing work to other countries. I found an article about a recent attempt to reduce the H-1b visas and a law that has been "introduced" to limit outsourcing. How do we support these efforts? How do we whistleblow?
Let's not even get into the need to regulate outsourcing of work to AI. We're so cooked.
https://time.com/article/2026/10/09/us-immigration-visa-fraud-green-card-h1b-j1-microsoft-adobe/
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-bill/234
Indian-origin employees are not cheaper. They often get paid at higher rate than others. Look at their homes, cars, private schools, travel habits, and etc. They live the American dream! Also, offshore labor does not guarantee the same outcomes at a lower cost. In Lean, no outcome means waste. In finance, it means a poor return on investment.
The root of the problem is Cigna’s lack of accountability. Before assuming Hyderabad is saving money, let’s ask a simple question: What has the Hyderabad operation actually delivered in the past three years, and what return has Cigna received on its investment?
To survive, Cigna must stop focusing on where people work and start measuring what they deliver.
This is the longest run-on sentence in internet history.😂
US government in nothing, but a group of people temporarily gathered together for short time so they could gain/achieve what they want! Interest groups can always lobby government to agree with them to do whatever they want. They outsourced manufacture to China, now east Asia, American workers lost jobs. They outsourced IT to India, and imported many H1B, American computer science students can’t find jobs!
@a6 Sure, everyone should do that. But the reality is that government is doing almost nothing to help this situation and is completely in the pocket of billionaire psychos and corporations.
@OP Government cannot do much more to help! If anyone wants to change, you need to put the pressure on the board of directors, they can pressure CEO, then immediate change happens! See how fast Elon Musk did on Twitter, Indian executives were fired in few months
@a3 I don’t think that the people who are bringing light to this crisis are only asking for government intervention now. I think many Cigna and other employees have just been fighting for their jobs for the past three years and trying to stay employed. Now that people are starting to see the bigger picture and strategy of Cigna to make more money by sacrificing U.S. workers and our livelihoods, I am hoping more people will come forward and start whistle blowing because there will be no skilled corporate roles left if something is not done soon.
I'd bet that many of the people who are calling for the government to step in now that THEIR jobs are at risk were previously yelling about "government overreach."
Capitalism baby! At least until it turns against me. SMH.
And BTW- I agree the government should take steps to limit the outsourcing of U.S. jobs and protect American workers. I just am consistent about it.
I don’t trust anything that Cigna leadership says…
Years ago, prior to the HIH opening, leadership sent out an email that said HIH would house 3000 employees and that they’d take on roles (I.e., data science, machine learning, etc.) that weren’t currently handled by onshore employees.
Funny how that played out…
Most of them have green card. Express Scripts rarely does h1b. For the ones who are on h1b they have a lot of experience.