But assigning me things I've never been trained on and expecting magic? That's the kind of stress I can't handle. I'm out of here as soon as I find something, even if it involves less pay.
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@3xy LOL. Yea most likely they are the only one that can sell, during the next 18 months. while you try to train the newbie, while the newbie, is walking around clueless, while they are trying to figure out who is the decision maker, etc etc.... when the Legacy talent will just pick up the phone and win the adoption in 15 minutes.
Take Legacy over Newbie in this climate any day.
Have you noticed?!?! we have already re-hired past employees and continue to do so,,,, . Explain that you Bootlicker.
@3ps right, cause your the only person who can sell? Get over yourself, there will be someone new to replace you in a heartbeat and who can out do you. New talents is way more motivated than entitled legacy cry babies like yourself. Enjoy sc--wing up your next company, if there is one.
@3n0 they won’t miss well over $2M in new dollars I closed in the last 12 months? Sure. And there are many more like us that have left. Keep drinking the kool aid and stay, where everyone laughs at cengage and anyone in the textbook industry trying to reinvent the wheel over and over again. What’s the definition of that again?
@3gq bye! No love lost here. Enjoy the next company you will deliver no value for.
@1x3 I’m not staying. I put my resignation in already.
@1s6 it’s not worth 85k? then why do you stay?
There are many ways to fake it. till you make. it. they care more about Tasks in sales force than actually closing business.
Find 12 people and do a brief generic interview. log the call and move on.
you are actually trying to a sales professional and actual sell something ,,, that’s your mistake. it’s not about selling it’s about data right now. How can Ai do your job. so input garbage into sales force so Ai learns garbage.
@1q6 this job is not remotely worth 85-95k with a hope and a prayer of a possible 45k bonus for all this job entails. Pathetic pay.
@1qh what are you referencing when you say "somewhere" ?
@19q “somewhere” is pretty ambiguous, maybe it would be more believable if you would say where? Or maybe you don’t work for Cengage and are making things up as usual!
@1pc They have lowered the salary online , but they are still hiring reps in the 85k 6o 95k range who have experience.
But yes. they are sc--wing new comers at 52 to 60k and No car.
You get what you pay for.... Just do the bare minimum and keep interviewing
It’d be hard to get less pay than what Cengage offers. Get out of this dystopian nightmare of a company
@1ef they cannot tell you when you can and cannot use your vacation days.
@1db unfair maybe. Illegal no.
@19s that’s against the law. One of my teammates took all of last week off.
i tried to take a few days off to have an extended long weekend, but was told No, because it is still a high priority back to school time.
I see that some of our executive team are off this week. double standards continue!
@19d I read somewhere here that a few leaders will apparently exit in Oct.
@17g yes, managers are so overwhelmed that they have no bandwidth to properly check on their direct reports.
How much longer can MH hold on?
When will Apollo see that NK not qualified and is drowning with responsibilities?
I heard that Barbwire and MJ will be gone one day in October.
Wishing everyone a Happy Long Labor Day weekend!
It has gotten so messy that we are just pretending at this point. Just do what you can, when you can if you can. This is the new Ethos! Or just don't do anything.
It is so Sad,, but also a slow, constant train wreck and I can't look away.
@16m kicking myself for not taking the severance now. No one hasn’t a clue of what they are doing.
@11p kind of glad I’m missing out on this.
@we You are so right. no one knows what’s going on. The goal was to cut costs, full stop. so we. look good got investors and the ipo.
Now we are a hollowed out organization , with a lot of clueless new managers.
Dude, what no one is commenting on is, nobody knows what’s going on so if you do absolutely nothing, they don’t know if you’ve done the work or not. I found that out gosh in May? So I’m just gonna chill here until either. They tell me what to do or do they lay me off either way there’s a lot of Internet out there to explore.
@ss yes, highly salaried and the ones with 5+ years of tenure.
@qa Exactly. There are so many great employees exiting. Look at the Circle of Excelkence attendees over the past 2 to 3 years …. at least 20 of them are gone. Top 5% talent are heading out on the terms.
Look at the Pods. and all the vacancies
It’s so bad, they are taking 5 to 8 weeks to even post a vacant position. They don’t want people too see the truth.
MH has been silenced.
Employees with 20 or more years were thrown into new roles with little to No training with the hopes they will quit and not have to given severances. it is cut cut cut. by any means at this point. They want all of the high salaried employees gone.
@fk umm, the bullies are MH and Apollo. Full Stop 🛑
@pz literally everyone what do you mean - look around you.
@nb can you give more details about who is leaving?
Well?!?! . more talent is exiting Cengage. Real Talent, Highly Successful individuals, who did the hard day to day work generating new business for the organization.
Management can not stop the bleeding at this point. They want everyone to believe it is part of the plan.
@jq Yes your job is protected. FMLA will run concurrently with STD. for a maximum 12 weeks. Go get some rest.
@jp If i take STD is my job protected. ?
Thanks for sharing , You are right. I looked into Short Term Disability. we are allowed to take 2 weeks off, for any medical reason we choose to report. No documentation Required for the first 2 weeks. 1st week they use your sick leave or vacation time. and during the 2nd week you are paid STD @ 100% of pay. If you need additional weeks beyond the initial 2 weeks, this is when you will be required to submit medical documentation from your doctor, but it is paid at 100% on STD.
Time to get some rest and take 2 weeks off.
@fj There are a lot of trolls on this site, just like all of social media. Some people don't have a life and for whatever reason get off on acting like bullies.
I don’t understand the vitriol on this site. If somebody feels overwhelmed by their job at because they feel they were thrown into a situation without proper support , they can vent about it on this site. There are no rules that stipulate that posts must only be about layoffs. I wish people would just calm down and let people say what they want to say on without jumping all over them. If someone wants to say an IPO is happening and lay out all the reasons why, let them. I don’t see why this is such a big deal. If you disagree an IPO is coming then do so like a grown up without resulting to personal attacks. And if it aggravates you so much, then get off the site. No one is making you logon and look at it.
I wish those who are still with the company, but are demoralized and aggravated that one day they will not feel that way - whether that means staying and making peace with it or leaving.
way not be such a baby and a bully about it.
let's try again! Take FMLA.... there are many ways you can take it. Use chatgpt if you are slow
Let them figure it out while you are out
@dn You did your old JOB for 3 months. SU---R! That again is your fault. Why would you do anything extra for these l-wlifes. Stop! Re-evaluate ! and Get back on track.
Loyalty has no place at this company, you are holding onto the past. It's no longer the old Thompson you loved. MH has been here for 13 years sc--wing you over and you are obviously a slow learner, who lives in fantasy land and nostalgia .
Stop Whining on Here and make a move. You can take up to 12 weeks of FMLA,
Or you can say No .. I love Cengage and I'm going to figure out how to work harder for them, harder than I ever have in my Life. they want me, they love me, I have to do better. I will show them.
Oh btw, leadership can't integrate a course, fix a webassign error, and very few of them can effectively use salesforce. That's the Joke! No of them have ever sold our products , they are Spreadsheet losers that only look good on paper.
@dj yeah no. There was zero training. No plan. And also did my old job for 3 months because no one on be textbook side knows how to do it. The irony you speak.
@dg not completely true. Several packages end in May 2027.
Its interesting how you thought you were the lucky one in May because you didn't get laid off in the Reorg. Now you are having a meltdown during back to school. Rush! You had the whole summer to learn your job. You must not be Tech Savvy? You have been working in Education for 17 to 30 years and Now you are figuring out you need computer skills?
The blame is yours and yours only!
You must be an employee with too many years of service., and you didn't qualify for the severance package. They gave 2 weeks for every year of service, plus your vacation balance. but that had to equal less than 35 weeks or you were not offered severance. All severance packages will end by December 2026.
They are trying to force you to quit! Don't Quit. Think of all the ways you can take 2 to 4 weeks off, RIGHT NOW! Asking for Vacation is Not the right answer. If you are not sure ask ChatGpt. Its so obvious..... That's how you fight back. DO IT TODAY!