Considering the number of BTC expats at USA sites (Houston, Beaumont, Midland, Labarge, Carlsbad, etc), the number of jobs that have been lost in the USA is much worse than the graphs they show indicates as they still count Indian expats working in the USA under the USA headcount shown on the graphs. Only going to worsen. In spite of inability to staff there is still pressure to reduce headcount in the USA further and send jobs to India. This is especially true for projects.
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EM should avoid activities that resemble root causes.
Going all-in on people that live in a garbage dump and will work for 1/10 normal salary seems like a future root cause.
@bj literally the first response to this thread criticized the executives and made zero racist remarks. The more you scream racism and filter everything through a racist lens the more you cause the very thing you say you oppose. DEI policies are racist.
@hf Now add to your list of crusaders the “If you don’t like the BTC strategy and offshoring of jobs you are a racist” character
@hg did you post this to try and make your point?
@f2 this was posted just a couple hours after you posted this - there’s plenty of racism against Indians on this board. Two thing can be true at once - a lot of our overseas colleagues do subpar work, and a lot of the disgruntled people on this board say racist stuff
https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1m41h71en
@d3 the You Don’t Do Complex Technical Engineering Crusader is such a weird character on this board. The Annandale Crusader at least had a purpose - he hated his job in R&D and hated local management. But you and the guy who always talks about his rotations and big pension are just two weird people. Very strange way to spend your time
@ch I am not seeing racism. Plenty of posts blaming executives and critical of their “management” and lack of leadership. Complaining about quality of BTC work is legit and is not racism.
You may be right that the technical support role can be done almost totally remotely. But those few times a year when the on-site support stops Operations or Maintenance from doing something that would've tripped the cr--ker or fouled the reactor or led to a loss of containment, they prevent the loss of MILLIONS of USD. It is very, very difficult to "prove a negative" (e.g. prove to me you prevented a reactor shutdown) so of course, porting on-site jobs to BTC/KLTC looks great on paper.
Those loss events will now occur much more frequently and DW et. al. will ask why and be told that it was caused by something other than lack of on-site support b/c they all know that CANNOT be the answer they deliver. And if they try, they will be replaced by someone who will go along with the party line. No one is stepping in front of that train now. All aboard!!!!
@ce Yes 8/10
You work for a large energy company. You do not design highly complex engineered systems. You actually spend most of your time in calls or revising technical specifications. You might do a bit of low/mid-level analysis work from time to time with a bit of field/plant troubleshooting thrown in.
In other words: your job is nowhere near as hard to do as you think it is, because if it was…
THEY WOULDN’T BE SENDING IT TO INDIA TO BEGIN WITH.
It's a commodity company.
You are a commodity too.
@ch the cr-ppy stupid executives su-k for making me work with su-ky Indians
@c0 Yes. They’re full of coded racist invective.
Virtually no criticism for the executives setting the actual policies. are to be found anywhere on this site. It’s just “blame brown people” up and down every thread.
Meanwhile, the people bending you over the rail aren’t even showing up on your radar. You people are a f’n joke…
@bt 8/10? Maybe after 4 rounds of recycle. Any project engineering package sent to site, I would say 90% of the content need significant changes. These ppl have no idea how site is run, selling textbook solution that is impossible to sustain by IEA and ops.
@bq very true. HCL has thousands of employees working for EM too as a managed service provider for stuff like IT, back office support, customer service, and the quality of the work they do is absolutely awful, and they are even doing the basics.
It's bad and getting worse. They'll take one job in North America, backfill it with 2 people in India, but they mess up everything, and someone in North America is left to catch and fix the mistakes. Only gonna keep getting worse for those left in the US.
@bs did you read any of the posts here ? You have some serious filtering going on if you don’t see the executives being criticized. And no we don’t state what gender or race the executives are.
@bj They’re getting the same level of output at 8/10 of the quality for 3/10 of the price and collecting huge bonuses…trust me, it’s a winning strategy, just not for you.
@OP Why does every post on this site about this issue begin with trashing the Indians who are (rationally) going for the best jobs in their area?
There is zero criticism for the WHITE, MIDDLE-AGED REPUBLICAN executives who are actively and gleefully sending the jobs overseas…and even bragging to your faces about it during the so-called “town hall” meetings.
Do any of you people have any grip on reality whatsoever?
It’s worse than you think. Don’t forget about the ESP/MSP contractors in India that are not counted as XOM employees. And XOM uses several contractor companies. Quest in India has 2500 people working for XOM. Quest even has representatives sitting in the W4 building.
@bj managers*
It’s shocking that our senior leaders think this is a winning strategy.