What is the purpose of RTO - just to burn gas, tires, increase car insurance, increase carbon emissions, stuck in traffic - and again on Teams call...
The slavery mind set of the CXO suite is mind blowing
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@ex if there was anything an attorney could do there'd be very public legal battles being waged already.
There are no worker protections and companies can do really whatever they want. It's not ok in any capacity.
I'm not upset with my remote colleagues. They got fu---d over in different ways. None of it is fair for anyone.
@dq It's bad enough those of us who were remote well before Covid for very good reasons already (i.e. being the only one from a segment of a BL within 600 miles suddenly expected to report to an office where their entire BL didn't exist in 2020), but expecting "extra" days on top of a selected three is ridiculous. I selected the days I did for a reason; it creates the least amount of disruptions around a life I had lived out over a decade before this nonsense. If I end up at 58/62/59 in one three month period just due to how the days of that month are laid out, that should absolutely count as meeting standard. My responsibilities more or less require me to log in for a few minutes to several hours on weekend days as well; I deserve at least that.
@eq You may want to consider upping the dosage on your meds.
How is it fair that people who happen to live within a certain radius of a building get an extra annual performance goal added, while people outside the radius don’t? Same team, different standard - just based on a few miles? Why is it not everyone or no one? Has anyone talked to an attorney yet?
@dc Are you going to say the same thing when they ship your job to india? Are you going to be in here saying, "You people need to accept that OFFSHORING is inevitable and move on." At a certain point people need to stand up and say enough is enough. Or do you plan to just keep bending over and taking it until you're old and saggy and the company doesn't care to fu-k you over anymore?
Can't wait until a massive ethics scandal comes and blows this down this shack of a company.
My L5 manager who's remote in suburban Chicago questioned why one of my months was only 58%. I'm like dude, get a grip. This tells me all I need to know about how shots are being called from above and middle management having no backbone to standup for their employees.
@cd that won’t last, I’ve already heard a lot of groups are forcing people mangers back into the office or take a package. It will eventually be less than 20% with attrition and non rehiring remote. When they hit their magic number I expect to see a phased layoff for all remote employees that don’t get some kind of exception. Several big banks did this.
You people need to accept that RTO is inevitable and move on. Speaking as a manager in Compliance that lives outside the 30 mile range and required to return, it's healthier to not dwell on things that are out of your control. While I understand the frustration, venting on this site will not change anything.
@cd the remote workforce is a cost cut for them too, but they'll never admit it. Move them in to geo code c, freeze their wages essentially, put them into lower bonus brackets, and they don't cost anything in real estate and the company doesn't have to shell out for commuter benefits.
Having is at each other's throats is what they want. It makes it so we're tearing each other apart instead of focusing on the real bad guys in this situation and that's GK and her clown show of a managing committee.
Probably the most annoying part of this is at least 40% of the workforce is still remote.
Basically you have half your workforce annoyed the other half doesn't have to drive into a office only to use Microsoft Teams and the other half constantly worried because they are remote they might be laid off.
From what I have seen most of the people laid off have been RTO folks so that only adds to the annoyance of some arbitrary metric they have imposed on only half the employees.
The shift to non in-person meeting began YEARS ago with WebEx. They started diversifying their hiring footprint and invested in conferencing technology. Eventually they switched to teams.
The issues with people not being in the same location and teams being apres out did NOT start with COVID. It started long before that because they could hire any talent in the footprint. Jobs sat empty for months with basically no applicants.
RTO is so problematic in so many ways, but the history behind our hiring strategy is the root of it. The current leadership at the top refuses to acknowledge any of this and the only reason they're getting away with it is because the job market is a dumpster fire. The second the winds change, all of these corporations are fu---d.
this so true. But companies forcing return to office only wants to force employees to quit. There is nothing logical to it.
I agree. I'm so over the RTO conversation especially with inflation and housing costs.
I work remote. I'm super lucky but I get sick with worry about losing my job all the time.
And I know that moving and going into the office means nothing for my job performance or even how I work with my teams.
It's all so lame.