I know this isnt everyone that acts like this, but as a longtimer, this is how i see many in IT act in these roles:
I7: Works hard, gets told you have to do your tasks plus I8 tasks to be considered doing a good job
I8: Does the I7 work, all the I8 work and 95% of the I9 work
I9: Doesnt pay attention in teams calls, rarely knows whats going on in general and asks the I8 all the questions for the trivial things they do work on that they should know the answers to
Am i missing anything?
Yes, missing, in last 6y of service we had i6 and i7 doing i8 and i9 jobs, in return i8 and i9 only could do i6 job, not grasping things and load of f ups from them only. Proper talent walked out from dell years ago, itdp's leave in 1-2 y time, or as soon they see through bullsht
I'm an i9 and always clock out at 1 pm because I belong to a clan. Technically I'm at SVP level, which means I can sell white shoes, and that's about it
@ej As an i6, I completely agree with you!
I'm a lowly i6 doing i7 and i8 work but, due to the constant budget constraints and the division I'm in, it's very very difficult to be promoted. I get solid raises so it's ok but, an i9 in my org is a "consultant" and they are basically a manager without the title. They are VERY technically saavy, know the ins and outs of damn near everything and the work they do is just different than what anyone below an i9 does - which is more operational type work + some engineering work.
My teams i9 is awesome. EVERYONE asks HIM questions about literally anything and everything and he generally knows how to help fix xyz.
it's still...
c1 = i7
c2 = i8
c3 = i9
d1 = i10
c3 historically was a contractor that Dell made fte.. anyway sorry what was the post about?
I'll put a lipstick on
It seems as though you don't understand the difference in responsibilities. I9s should not be performing tactical work, they should be determining what work I7/I8 should be doing and leading/managing it. Grades aren't more pay for the same work, they have very different expectations. Just read the grade level descriptions and you will understand better.
I‘m great and start my pc boot li---r edition. You can do both
Oh that depends on the organization and team. I personally know i9:s that are both underappreciated and overworked. Does a fantastic job, and knows their sh-t.
I've also come across i9:s that clearly were promoted into the position just because they knew someone and are acting exactly as you say. With the additional bonus of if something fails it's everyone's else fault and if it somehow succeeds they take all the credit.
It works very much the same in the manager ranks. Scale is a--holes that shouldn't be managers but are buddies with the boss, to people doing a fantastic job and never got bumped up.
Dell is fantastic at not recognizing internal talent. There should be some sort of study made from it.
For an I8 you carry the whole company. For an I9 you just open a shell company
Sounds like you’re an I8 based on this. At the end of the day the majority of Dell rely on minority to do the work. Right now we are too top heavy with folks that bring little value.