I’ve seen guesses anywhere from 200 to 3,000.
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Heard it was around 1500
@dt+1jr10mj8z All things being equal, you’d be right. But they are hiring PMs left and right in Hyderabad, same with coders. They aren’t fixing systemic issues. Just trying to reduce payroll. And if you think the US based PMs and coders caused issues, give HIH a year or so and we will see how bad shape things end up in.
62 in NJ. No idea how many in PA, CT, MO, TX, AZ, CO, etc...
1800 was the number I heard from a B5
I agree with you. Quite a lot of unnecessary overhead and waste. People with important titles and not important work. Agile is anti agile and pro expense overload.
No one is going to like this and I am going to get down voted to oblivion but...we need more layoffs. Especially on the IT side. When Cigna went on their Agile kick they waaaaaay over invested and we are extremely bloated especially on the Project Management and administrative side. On average you should have 1 PM for every 8 engineers - Cigna has 1 for every 3. Even under ideal circumstances PMs don't really do much except slowdown work but when you have too many the problem gets multiplied and they start creating "busy work" to look needed. This leads to loads of new intake forms, meetings, emails, etc that eat up the time of people who do the actual work.
Also in the Agile nonsense they went to heavily on getting "coders". Coders are not the same as engineers, they can build things they have been told to build but not necessarily design things or solve problems. Their work is punching tickets (stories) the PMs assign them and it's an extremely ineffective way to work. This led to enterprise project (Portfolio spending) bloating, nothing being delivered on time or on budget and caused Cigna's op ex (Operations budget) to go over by $500m - this is a major part of why we have been having layoffs the last couple of years.
Fact is IT needs to be reduced by about 50% with most of that focus being on H1 coders, administrative people - CIP and security folks - and we need to reduce our PMs enterprise wide by about 80%. We need to learn out a lot so work can actually get done and our business teams and customers actually supported. As it stands now we are so bloated that nothing ever gets done.
IT was cut by more than 10%.
Are you shopping for the beer ?
Nobody who visits this forum can tell you that... it's all guesswork, and you will get different numbers.