Thread regarding Dell Inc. layoffs

This would be a welcome change. The notion that they’re just aren’t enough qualified people in America is and has always been complete BS. The companies know they can just hire foreign workers for cheap and treat them like slave labor since they control the visas.

Not to mention your favorite country India is now cozying up to Putin and Russia. Everyone with a Ukraine flag in their bio ought to be celebrating punishing India.

@fx No the problem corporations are having is that Americans with the skillsets expect to be paid well. Why pay an American $200k per year plus benefits when you can hire 3-5 Indians or Egyptians for $35k each and no benefits package?

You can only remove offshore labor, if you are willing to accept
1/ paying decent salary to the US employees
OR/AND
2/ allowing 100% remote work, so you can hire US people in rural areas and save a little costs.

Since boomers like JC, MD are office rats, we cannot expect the 2/...

America simply does not have the internal IP to cover these jobs/skill sets. The government's you have voted in over the years favour profit over workforce. Take manufacturing for example, all done in Asia because of the bottom line. Same in IT. So where are the millions of skilled works to take back these roles? ...all watching Wall St. markets

@cd You got the point.
It would be nice if people started taking their tongues out of CEOs' a**es.

comply or get fined....Companies that do comply should get a tax break also.

it's already too late, do you think CEOs at below will fully comply?

Sundar Pichai: (Alphabet/Google)
Satya Nadella: (Microsoft)
Shantanu Narayen: (Adobe)
Arvind Krishna: (IBM)
Leena Nair: (Chanel)
Nikesh Arora: (Palo Alto Networks)
Jayshree Ullal: (Arista Networks)
George Kurian: (NetApp)
Sanjay Mehrotra: (Micron Technology)
Ajay Banga: (World Bank)

with the lower unemployment rate for American workers in high skilled jobs does not look good for the Trump administration. That signals that something is not working and the other side loves to eat that stuff up. I would imagine something will be done to get American high skilled workers employed again.

@c1
Yes, this person repeats the same rhetoric in every post. I don’t bother reading them anymore, we’ve already heard his point.

The current situation with tariffs on goods, and now potentially on foreign workers, stems largely from the practices of Fortune 500 companies.

Many of these corporations avoid paying their fair share of taxes, while Trump’s stated goal is to make the country profitable again. Will this strategy succeed? Hard to say, I don’t have a crystal ball. What I do know for certain is that it’s the middle class who shoulders the burden of these financial issues, and they are the first to feel the impact when a recession hits.

A couple of examples:

A $25 million renovation at Dell’s Round Rock office was funded by American taxpayers. Does that sound normal to you?

Whenever a data center company establishes operations, part of the cost is passed on through your electricity bill. And those bills are only expected to keep rising. Based on current financial projections, the middle class may find it increasingly unsustainable in the coming years.

It’s always corporations first and people last. Is that truly acceptable? We’re the ones doing the work, generating their wealth, yet it’s never enough for them. They constantly find new ways to bend or cheat the very systems meant to regulate them. As for the issue of remote foreign workers, I won’t go into my full opinion here. My main point is this: we’ve ended up in this situation because these companies refuse to pay their fair share of taxes.

Question...do you believe that you can do your job from anywhere in the world? If so, why shouldn't a company hire overseas if you think you can do your job from anywhere? Second, do you believe that Americans are automatically more qualified or intelligent than people from other countries? Reality check, we are one of the most under-educated countries in the world. Ever wonder why no one outsources to us, they would if we had the smart people. They also aren't going to pay top salaries for mid-tier employees.

@ah You're not wrong, but IMHO the tariff would ideally exist a company 100k + per year to offshore a 60k per year job.

Bro, get Trump off your little mind lol... I feel like this post was meant to somehow "blame" Trump for something but the reality is, is that there is no reason why companies (ANY COMPANY) is regularly offshoring support to India while ripping millions of jobs away from Americans...

Yes, cheaper labor of course but if that's what companies want to do then, why SHOULDN'T they be tarriffed out the butth0le for hiring foreign people instead of Americans?

Don't want to pay a tech support American 60k/year, but will pay some random Indian in India $15/hour? Fine. The tarrif will even that right up in which the company will be paying 60k/year simply BECAUSE of the tariff.

@ab This is 100% true 100% of the time. I was just saying that some MIGHT be very well technically saavy. But yeah, they are absolutely just reading from scripts lol

Damn straight, intellectual property related.

"They may be very well technically versed"
I haven't encountered one in the last 15 years in the industry. Most oy read a script and lose their sh-t if the problem is outside the script or if I ask basic questions about the troubleshooting process.

Are you acting as if this is a bad thing? Because I think this is actually an amazing thing! There are millions and millions and millions of jobs that people in India have that, in all honesty... should be Americans.

There should be and massive ones at that. Most of the worlds tech support jobs have been offshored to India over the last 30 years for cheap af labor. The very very very vast majority of the US tech support jobs definitely have. Dell included. Sooner than later, Dell will have no US based tech support teams because they all got offshored to India! For cheaper labor, obviously.

Maybe US based companies need to start utilizing MSP's based IN the US if they can't afford to pay their own damn tech support employees? I'm far removed from the tech support industry at this point but, I can 100% promise you that NOBODY wants to talk to a techie based out of India. NOBODY. They may be very well technically versed but, the language barrier + the thick accents make it as if you might as well be asking your dog for tech support.

If anybody should be happy about this, it's anyone who works in tech support.