Thread regarding SAP layoffs

@de HA HA!! Fiori? Thats still a thing?

@b3 Sure it was not 83%? https://how-i-met-your-mother.fandom.com/wiki/83

@c7 Thankfully in my 10+ years I was too busy running programs and projects the PMI way instead of doing the deep-breathing exercises re-branded as “Design Thinking”. Re-branding organized common sense into these fluffy platforms changed no games. Remember the revolution of the role-based UI Fiori versus “why didn’t the PM create for me a list of transaction codes that I can memorize?”…

@bv But if you talk to someone in the Works Council, then you will know that there are already negotiations going on for Project Mongoose. They can still make lists of who to lay off. And they already have workarounds now. If you don't like someone give them a bad performance review, put them on a PiP and lay them off due to poor performance. The new system makes it easy to do this as it needs less "evidence". And the system also allows you to give a career boost to colleagues on the "friends and family" plan at SAP.

I avoid anything related to Sam Altman.

I don't think AI is the problem. AI is a tool like anything else. Its value primarily depends on how you use it.

I'm not a fan of Open AI at all but the claim of the original post is misaligned. The implementation of ads implies greed but it is not an indicator of effectiveness. Ads do not effect the output.

The problem with AI at SAP is that we rush into trends with a pretentious attitude of being experts on the topic when we should approach the topic with patience and curiosity.

I use AI every single day in my life and it has been a tremendous benefit. I don't use it at work because it has become a distraction.

@bh HRBPs telling leaders to make layoff lists? Lol. Layoffs are devised and initiated by CK, DA and their consulting cronies. HR has no power at SAP. They are just sh---y messengers who abide by what the business wants.

@bt Nah, people with access to the L1 level told me that there are no reorgs or layoffs planned as of today.

Please let's keep the political discourse to a minimum or go to another forum. DA was hired for one reason - inflate the share price. I completely believe that it is not salaries that are targeted, it is headcount. Managers will use every redundancy to eliminate people they don't like, who give them poor feedback in surveys, for example, and use any excuse - AI "efficiencies" being the most popular. The walls will come tumbling down tomorrow if the investor community does not like what it hears, and the share price will settle in the mid 170s where is belongs. If you thought there has been a lot of teeth brushing before - get ready because it is going to go full orthodontia in the next few months. By March the massive layoff will be announced, just my opinion, and it won't be in Germany. France or Sweden.

@b6 I am not sure actually. Because there are areas in SAP where executive management has been told by HRBP to create a list of employees that can be laid off due to AI. Even if AI doesn't catch up, Dominik Asam wants those employees gone. Unfortunately from what I have heard, executives and managers are only trying to rid of employees they do not like. Or they're keeping the expensive bench warmers but getting rid of inexpensive employees to hit the HRBP quota.

@b3 Do I detect a whiff of irony here?

Joule will blow ChatGPT out of the water. The current development on AI at SAP has been outstanding and it is on track to replace 23% of SAP employees by 2030. That's a big win for SAP.