Thread regarding Dell Inc. layoffs

Must su-k working for HR at Dell. Reduced to a role similar to being a Nurse at a Hospice.

@ab

Tell me about it. Talking with an HR colleague, HR has been absolutely gutted and now it's more of an ops org. No ability to focus on culture initiatives. You can tell Dell doesn't care about culture building much anymore

@b2 yea no.

@b5 hmm, my manager also often offline and not great with emails. Can never tell if they are busy or not working

@ax 100% agree. I found another mgr job at a completely different company, love it!

They need to fire more managers instead of moving them into IC roles with the same pay grade. Instead of demoing these managers and allowing them to keep the same pay and they should be firing these managers across-the-board when their role is no longer obviously needed and especially when the manager doesn’t answer email and is always offline on Teams! Oh, let’s make him an individual contributor now, even though he never did anything at all as a manager, but let him keep his salary, while we fire, hard-working, dedicated subordinates that did all the heavy lifting for him. This is all bananas.

Dell needs to fire those demoted managers. Otherwise, this company fills with no-skill hight-level ICs.

Sounds like a hurt Director or Senior Manager there who was demoted to IC due to spans and layers changes. If ethics were preventing OP from being a manager, the same should prompt OP to leave with honor and not wait for a payout that OP is obviously waiting for. Ethics! What a laugh

Sounds like a good decision for you while you are at Dell. But if management is what you want to be, my recommendation would be to bust your tail finding a management role at a new company. Once you step out of management, it can be hard getting back in.

Most of the management didn't have the skill or talent to hit quota so they instantly became a coach and then a manager with two or three more knowledgeable on that team and had more skills to teach others but didn't have the desired dell packaging or perhaps they were not young enough

All these layoffs create a pool of money so they can pay unconsciously incompetent gross amounts of money as newbie SCs and AE's

@a4 it's not HRs fault. HR has been reduced to purely a risk management / ops oriented function that is seen as a pure cost. As such their KPIs are all productivity based, with no thought that they can create value.

I’m hoping this happens to me too. Right now, I have as much individual contributor responsibilities as anyone on my team. Plus, supporting each team members work where needed. And having to just consistently be the bearer of bad news. Tough to lead a team in a direction that you disagree with.

@a5

Management absenteeism is escalating. Too often, managers show up only to sit through endless meetings, burn themselves out, and then walk out early. It’s obvious that some of them don’t want to be there at all, their disengagement and stress are written all over their faces, reflecting a leadership culture that is just as strained and unmotivated as the workforce they oversee.

Right now, Managers have no choice. The layoff cycle is continuing. I do not know how someone can do that job especially to cope with firing people. Then again, they choose to stay in and continue the role.

Best choice ever.

Dell’s management culture has recently grown more toxic, shifting toward a rigid, military-style command-and-control model rather than the flexible, collaborative environment typical of IT companies. These changes stem largely from HR focused mainly on hiring and layoffs instead of shaping culture and from directives handed down by upper management. In the process, the company is losing touch with its employees and damaging its own reputation.

Amen, brother (or sister :)