Just fyi...hearing rumors HR is monitoring time in office and taking action without notifying management for people spending less than 2h in office.
this has been going around and around, but passing along again
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@28d that I am not sure of. I just know they’ve been tracking this longer than the rumors the past few months. Even my director is completely in the dark on how what is the length of time they are monitoring. But it’s not over yet. I do know that for a fact.
@27r
So if i know my hours were low until I heard the rumors and got my hours up since then nor have heard anything from HR will I be okay? Thank you for the information
@1ds 6 hours is what I’m being told. Needs to be closer to 6 than it does to 4. Get a few 8 hour days each month also.
Not worth losing your job in this economy
@250 it’s ongoing on some sort of rolling average. Hopefully at this point, people will stop doing it, but they are still monitoring. If you make the list, HR will tell your manager that you’re on the list, and you’ll be asked to work from home during the investigation and to not log on at all. Once they decide, that’s it. If you get a meeting on your calendar, and it includes your manager and someone from HR, that’s when you find out. No severance either.
@24z how long is this investigation supposed to be going on until? And if we haven’t heard from our managers or HR are we good?
I was told today that if your average is 4 hours or less this puts you on the list to be investigated. From there, not sure what happens to get you fired, but HR is bypassing managers and directors and just firing. Without even caring about how it impacts teams or capacity.
There are so many inconsistencies. I have seen coffee badging, coming in for 2-3 hours a day and some people being able to work from home 100% of the time not having to come into the office at all. I’ve also heard that Administrative Assistants in the company can all work a hybrid persona with the exception of AA’s who work under the Wealth Management umbrella having to be in the office 40 hours/week-no exceptions. Make it make sense.
@23x
If you don’t mind me asking what office or department was this out of?
More people yesterday. Same ethical violation reason hiding the unwritten 2 hour “rule”, which is really 4 hours or more
@1cn go find that company that allows you to do that and let me know.
If you didn’t hear anything as of today can you assume that your job is safe? Probably best to make sure we go in 6-8 hours moving forward. Wouldn’t want to lose a good thing in this economy.
@1cn You should be able to work when and where you want. Go find a job that offers that.
This company is so d-mb. I should be able to work when I want and where I want. If AI doesn't walk the halls and it works when it feels like, why should we?
@15c Nuveen is a TIAA company. they are inlcuded.
@15c I think they did it all in one swoop. If you were on the list, you'd have been notified a week or so ago and told to stay away from the office. Then, I think they pulled the trigger on people all within a day or two.
Is this just for TIAA or does it include Nuveen employees? And have they ended all of their terminations or is there more on the horizon? Hope everybody stays safe and remains employed
80 people let go yesterday, spanning range of titles. Didn’t matter if you were a key person with critical responsibilities or not.
You have to be stupid to come in less than 2 hours (unless doctor appt, etc). But if there are going to start looking at canning the 8/9-nooners then 75% of the company will have to go.
Also, there’s no mention in their policy of the official time you should be in office. Only 3 days a week.
Who cares if someone comes in for 1 hour, 2 hour if they are getting their work d-mb. Such a stupid thing. For the ‘culture’ aka just sitting on zoom calls in a desk
@aa you are correct. A couple of long term employees got canned this morning. Both directors. One has been here for close to 20 years. Heads will roll.
@pz but that’s the thing. Is it 45 minutes is it nine hours? There’s no clarity on it.
I wish I worked at an office that had a gym or even a cafeteria
@pz I’ve see people comment on here that they use the gym daily during the week and then leave, so they think their average will keep them good to go. Nope
"unknown" policy violation? Yea, we all think being in the office means working here for 45 minutes and then going home. What a bunch of clowns. These people show up at midnight to get 2 swipes in 5 minutes. Or else have this "terrible" 90 commute and think it's smart to come in for 30 minutes so theyre supposedly driving almost 3 straight hours back and forth in the morning which means they're doing basically no work all morning long.
I would work better if I had an office on the beach in Florida but since that's not where my job is, I just have to su-k it up and work where my job actually is.
@mm funny enough, there are more distractions in office for me. Overly loud people on Zoom, many who don’t use headphones, constant Ring camera notifications blaring, the constant noise of people hocking up phlegm, loud cubicle gatherings, etc.
At home, even with my kids running around, I’m much more focused. Maybe it’s being in my home, around the noise of my family - gives me constant perspective of why working at a chaotic company still has its perks.
And the opportunity for nooners with the wife is a definite perk
This is definitely true. My Sr Dir sent our team an email that they are tracking connection to VPN, but of course no mention of the recommended time at the office.
@d8 funny enough, I find myself working a LOT more, and more effectively when I work from home.
I have an hour and ten commute each way, so that extra time ends up being time I get to work.
All this noise and firing people for unknown policy violations is tiring.
I don’t think I want to work here anymore,
I know somebody this happened to.
Is the 2hr minimum what is being flagged?
I have a long commute, so stay in the office for most of the traditional 9-5 day, but do like to go and watch my kids soccer games when they play, get my teeth cleaned etc. I guess if they need to fire me for that then im better off
Why would anyone spend less than 2 hours in the office? This is not a charity. You are coming to office to work 8 hours or more.
@ar our reports team takes months to program a simple report. they don’t know what they are doing, and are highly incompetent.
@ar hmm. Sounds like someone I know... MK?
@aa most PMs, TPM, scrum Masters are dead weight anyway. Mine comes in at 9, gone by noon every single day.
good. get rid of the dead wood. Replace them with Indians at Accenture.
/s
people are getting fired this week and next week for this