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IBM annual sales growth for last 10 years

Only at IBM would such horrible and incompetent sales growth results be awarded with $38,000,000 pay plans and hundreds of thousands of IBM shares be given for free as grants.

Meanwhile at NVIDIA:
Revenue: About $44,546,759 per hour.
Net Profit : About $27,633,333 per hour.
Per Second: This equates to roughly $10,484 in revenue and about $6,500 in net profit every single second.

Put your money in a Goldman Sachs CD and get 4.35% vs the pathetic IBM results here.

2025: +7.62% ($67.54 billion total revenue)
2024: +1.44% ($62.75 billion total revenue)
2023: +2.20% ($61.86 billion total revenue)
2022: +5.54% ($60.53 billion total revenue)
2021: +3.94% ($57.35 billion total revenue)
2020: -4.39% ($55.18 billion total revenue)
2019: -27.49% ($57.71 billion total revenue — heavily impacted by portfolio reshaping and divestitures)
2018: +0.57% ($79.59 billion total revenue)
2017: -0.98% ($79.14 billion total revenue)
2016: -2.23% ($79.92 billion total revenue) [1] (https://stockanalysis.com/stocks/ibm/revenue/)


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Would anyone concur with this assessment?

Yes, a technology company can survive a single-digit sales growth rate over the long term if it shifts its focus from rapid expansion to high profitability and strong cash flow.When Single-Digit Growth WorksMarket maturity: Large tech companies eventually saturate their core markets. They cannot double revenue forever.Shift to cash generation: Mature firms stop chasing hypergrowth. They focus on steady income and efficient operations.High profit margins: Established software and hardware companies can maintain healthy profit margins even when new sales slow down. [1] (https://www.bcg.com/publications/2022/rules-of-growth-and-profit-margins-in-software-industry), [2] (https://www.quora.com/Is-there-an-upper-limit-to-how-large-and-profitable-the-top-technology-companies-can-become-Amazon-Google-Apple-etc-or-will-they-keep-growing-forever), [3] (https://www.maclear.ch/blog/why-tech-firms-deliberately-remain-unprofitable)Strategies for Long-Term SurvivalCost discipline: Companies must control operating expenses and manage research budgets carefully.Recurring revenue: Subscription and maintenance models provide stable, predictable cash flow year after year.Shareholder returns: Slow-growth companies attract steady investors by paying dividends and buying back stock instead of promising massive future gains. [1] (https://www.equidam.com/startup-survival-rates-risk-factor-valuation-startups-investment/)Major Risks to WatchStagnation: Low growth can signal a lack of new ideas or failing adaptation to new trends like artificial intelligence.Talent drain: Top engineers and executives may leave for faster-growing startups that offer bigger equity rewards.Disruption: Agile new competitors can slowly erode the market share of a slow-moving legacy giant.If you have a specific company in mind, tell me its name or business model so I can analyze its financial position.IBMInternational Business Machines (IBM) is the ultimate real-world proof that a technology company can survive—and even thrive—with low-to-single-digit sales growth over the long term. [1] (https://www.quora.com/How-much-longer-will-IBM-survive-given-their-poor-management-during-the-last-decade-There-are-good-things-that-came-out-of-IBM-and-I-m-concerned-it-s-a-dying-elephant-now)For the past two decades, IBM has deliberately traded aggressive revenue expansion for high-margin stability, restructuring its business multiple times. Despite shrinking from over $100 billion in revenue in 2011 to $67.5 billion in 2025, the company remains highly solvent, profitable, and vital to global enterprise infrastructure. [1] (https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/IBM/ibm/revenue), [2] (https://www.statista.com/statistics/265003/ibms-revenue-since-1999/?srsltid=AfmBOopkDmrIK3Wd6kxoF7_oyax-LrZjIwzzvhV8cRsMhS5wf0oXRdHv), [3] (https://www.google.com/intl/en_us/googlefinance/disclaimer), [4] (https://www.quora.com/How-much-longer-will-IBM-survive-given-their-poor-management-during-the-last-decade-There-are-good-things-that-came-out-of-IBM-and-I-m-concerned-it-s-a-dying-elephant-now)🔎 Why IBM Survives (and Thrives) on Low GrowthMassive Cash Flow Generation: IBM functions primarily as a cash cow. In 2025, it generated $14.7 billion in free cash flow on $67.5 billion in revenue. This structural cash-generative power gives IBM the capital to weather down cycles and fund shareholder payouts without needing double-digit top-line growth. [1] (https://newsroom.ibm.com/2026-01-28-IBM-RELEASES-FOURTH-QUARTER-RESULTS), [2] (https://finance.yahoo.com/markets/stocks/articles/ibm-lowers-annual-revenue-outlook-102843685.html)High-Margin Software Pivot: Rather than chasing low-margin hardware volume, IBM spun off its legacy managed infrastructure business (Kyndryl) and bought Red Hat. This pushed its gross profit margins to roughly 58%, making every dollar of its single-digit revenue growth far more profitable. [1] (https://www.statista.com/statistics/265003/ibms-revenue-since-1999/?srsltid=AfmBOopkDmrIK3Wd6kxoF7_oyax-LrZjIwzzvhV8cRsMhS5wf0oXRdHv), [2] (https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/IBM/key-statistics/), [3] (https://newsroom.ibm.com/2026-01-28-IBM-RELEASES-FOURTH-QUARTER-RESULTS)Enterprise Lock-In: Mainframes (like the z16 and upcoming z17 lines) and transaction processing software form the operational backbone of global banking, airlines, and governments. These customers sign three-to-five-year contracts, ensuring highly predictable recurring revenues. [1] (https://www.marketwatch.com/story/is-ibms-selloff-an-opportunity-heres-one-case-for-the-beaten-down-stock-a3ca92ed), [2] (https://www.futuriom.com/articles/news/can-ibm-be-saved/2026/07)⚠️ Current 2026 Friction PointsEven for a survivor like IBM, single-digit growth comes with distinct operational hazards that the company is currently navigating:The Hardware/Software Budget Tug-of-War: In mid-2026, IBM had to lower its full-year sales growth forecast slightly to 4% to 5%. This was driven by a 42% drop in Z mainframe sales as corporate customers temporarily diverted tech budgets away from hardware upgrades to buy specialized AI servers. [1] (https://finance.yahoo.com/markets/stocks/articles/ibm-lowers-annual-revenue-outlook-102843685.html), [2] (https://www.linkedin.com/posts/venture-official_ibm-mainframe-enterprisesoftware-activity-7485796990266613760-XeOg)Valuation Compression: Tech companies growing at 4% are valued differently than those growing at 25%. IBM trades at lower price-to-earnings multiples compared to hypergrowth peers, meaning it must appease Wall Street via reliable dividends and share buybacks rather than explosive stock appreciation. [1] (https://newsroom.ibm.com/2026-04-22-IBM-RELEASES-FIRST-QUARTER-RESULTS), [2] (https://stockstory.org/us/stocks/nyse/ibm)📊 Comparing IBM's StrategyGrowth TargetPrimary MechanismStrategic FocusMid-Single-Digit (4% – 5%)Hybrid Cloud & Enterprise AI (watsonx)Driving operational efficiency and expanding software margins.Free Cash Flow GrowthLong-term corporate contracts and high retentionReturning billions to shareholders and making strategic acquisitions.

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Post ID: @11f+1m1pfjpxn

Is this meager growth sustainable for another 10 years?

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Post ID: @ev+1m1pfjpxn

@an - Makes sense -- that's when I joined! (They haven't shared the multi-million-dollar bonuses with me though.. LOL )

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Post ID: @at+1m1pfjpxn

At least, it has gone up since 2021! lol!

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