These type of jobs are the safest of the safe because so many checker layers there has to be a reason for all of this plus there is more hiring happening for this checker type of job in QA
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I just used GROK AI to create a python generated thinkorswim indicator. Amazing. Cocreated the code. Had it give me back all the prompts (the specs). Had it created test stubs, and a test plan. Grok remembers everything.
What Greenfield program is about?
Dysfunction in QA and Beyond at the Bank
This thread on QA and “checker” roles at the bank paints a grim picture of inefficiency, redundancy, and a lack of purpose. Commenters highlight a bloated system where multiple layers of QA staff—often offshore and underqualified—duplicate efforts without adding value. One user notes “entire departments full of workers whose jobs aren’t value-add,” with management ignoring QA results, suggesting a culture of going through the motions to appease regulators rather than improve processes. Another describes the erosion of a once-competent BSA/AML team, now replaced by offshore workers relying on faulty AI reports and generic responses, just to dodge consent orders. Offshoring dominates, with QA roles like those in Caracas or elsewhere described as clueless or redundant. Even optimistic take—like promises of transformation via “Bridget” or AI—get downvoted or lack substance, hinting at skepticism.
The root issue? There’s no real product discovery here. No consistent, written specs guide development or QA— if specs exist, they’re a mess or ignored. This bank isn’t doing product design and management right. Instead of empowering teams to solve customer problems, it’s stacking checker atop checker, creating jobs to mask a deeper failure: a lack of vision, strategy, and accountability from leadership. QA’s just the symptom; the disease is a broken approach to building and managing products.
Bridget is going to change the way tech is done, Greenfield program will be launched very very soon.
Did you review your checklist???
There are so many offshore checkers that have no idea what they are supposed to be checking.
Multiple levels of people doing the same thing anywhere in the organization is unnecessary. It leads to entire departments full of workers whose jobs aren't really value-add. In terms of QA, you end up with management (both of the QA team as well as the teams your QA'ing) that doesn't care about the results and isn't willing to react, change, or manage to the QA results. Entire departments exist just because of the perceived need for all these reviews because we think some consent order requires it even though nobody cares internally. Everybody just goes through the motions. People being paid insane salaries to do ridiculous work that has no value.
This isnt on the staff; this is on leadership in this company. People should be hired when there is a justified need for their position - sadly, after 15 years with the company, I'm living proof that so many positions in this company have no justifiable reason for existing. It's frustrating in an environment where layoffs are constantly looming and you know the company could easily get rid of you with very little impact whatsoever.
We used to have a very experienced and detail oriented team regarding BSA/AML compliance in the USA that supported our department. They were knowledgeable and responsible for oversight on transactions from certain countries namely with capital flight restrictions (China, Venezuela, etc.). Over the last 6 years, this team has slowly been eroded, downsized, and now almost completely off-shored. They basically work off some AI report that flags unknown criteria that oftentimes ends up being erroneous, and can only provide incoherent emails with generic responses. But as long as we can get our consent orders lifted...
QA Caracas is part of the B Team
Ya know op is right
All QA jobs with WF have been offshored.
Bridget will transform this bank soon. AI will be used to automate everything.
@a5+1jmwg145e - well done. you guys are heroes. We can’t have enough people like you in the company.
WF doesn’t need and doesn’t have QA needs. WF is doing everything correctly from the first try and all systems are working perfectly! 🤣